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|    Tristan Wibberley to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: Conventional notion of deciders    |
|    22 Dec 25 20:56:28    |
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 22/12/2025 15:56, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/21/25 9:37 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >> Deciders: Transform finite string inputs by finite string   
   >> transformation rules into {Accept, Reject} values.   
   >>   
   >> When there are no finite string transformation rules that   
   >> transform the input finite string into {Accept, Reject} values   
   >> the conventional view is that the input is undecidable.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Let me point out how STUPID this definition is.   
   >   
   > Since you don't define what a "rule" is, one simple rule that could be   
   > defined for the Halting problem is:   
   >   
   > Transform the Finite String that represent a program into the Accept if   
   > the program that string represents halts when run, or Reject if it never   
   > will.   
   >   
   >   
   > Why is that not a "Finite String Transformation Rule"?   
      
   "finite string-transformation rules"   
    ^   
   and "input finite-string"   
    ^   
      
   he missed out the hyphens.   
      
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