home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   comp.ai.philosophy      Perhaps we should ask SkyNet about this      59,235 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 58,813 of 59,235   
   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: Proof that the halting problem is in   
   25 Dec 25 20:20:28   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/25/2025 8:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/25/25 8:45 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 12/25/2025 5:39 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> https://chatgpt.com/share/694dcae3-a210-8011-b12f-a74007045a4a   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> "Any result that cannot be derived as a pure function   
   >>   of finite strings is uncomputable."   
   >>   
   >> Deciders are not accountable for anything that   
   >> is not a pure function of their actual inputs.   
   >   
   > And the "Halting Function" *IS* a "Pure Function" of its input, so you   
   > are agreeing that your decider are accountable to being asked about the   
   > Halting of theinput.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> It is categorically impossible for there to   
   >> be a better measure of the actual behavior   
   >> that the actual input actually specifies   
   >> to H(P) that H computes as a pure function   
   >> of its actual input than P simulated by H.   
   >>   
   >   
   > WRONG, and that just shows how stupid you are.   
   >   
      
   What is your actual reasoning to show that I am incorrect?   
   Calling be stupid seems to indicate that you are baffled.   
   It certainly does not indicate that I am incorrect.   
      
   > That CAN'T be the measure for a Halt Decider.   
   >   
   >   
   > What is you logic to make this claim?   
   >   
      
   Already fully provided and you ignored it or   
   it was over-your-head. I don't think it was   
   over-your-head. You do seem to have all the   
   basic ideas correctly.   
      
   > It seems to just come out of your ignorance.   
   >   
   > Sorry, but you have PROVES that you presumptions are just bad, and that   
   > you are just a pathological liar.   
      
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott

              My 28 year goal has been to make
       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
       reliably computable.

              This required establishing a new foundation
              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca