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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: Thought this through for 30,000 hour    |
|    27 Dec 25 22:40:18    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 12/27/2025 7:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 12/27/25 7:54 PM, olcott wrote:       >> A system such all semantic meaning of the formal       >> system is directly encoded in the syntax of the       >> formal language of the formal system making       >> ∀x ∈ L (Provable(L,x) ≡ True(L,x))       >       > Which is IMPOSSIBLE, as for any sufficiently expressive system, as it       > has been shown that for a system that can express the Natural Numbers,       > we can build a measure of meaning into the elements that they did not       > originally have.       >              It would seem that way from your limited frame-of-reference.       It turns out that the entire body of general knowledge       expressed in language can be expressed this way.              >>       >> "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"       >> is reliably computable by the above formalism.       >       > But it can only apply to limited systems, namely the systems smaller       > than the proof of incompleteness specified.       >       >>       >> I have thought this through for 30,000 hours over       >> 28 years.       >>       >>       >       > And you should have figured out its problems a lot earlier.                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott |
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