XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 28/12/2025 17:58, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/28/25 8:49 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>   
   >> In other words artificially contriving a fake meaning.   
   >   
   > In other words, you don't undertstand how things get their meaning?   
   >   
   > Words and Symbols don't inherently have a meaning. That meaning is   
   > assigned, and others can be assigned to them.   
      
      
   No. Meaning is inferred by the receiver and presumed by the producer   
   except when the producer is acting on the receiver instead of   
   communicating with it - although I think you might say the two are   
   unifiable - if a sound always precedes a movement does it /mean/ that   
   that the movement is coming? was it assigned?   
      
   That the receiver and producer can do all that by prior agreement is   
   merely a sophistication; an effect of earlier memoranda.   
      
      
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