Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    comp.ai.philosophy    |    Perhaps we should ask SkyNet about this    |    59,235 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 58,932 of 59,235    |
|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Boiling_G=C3=B6del=27s_1    |
|    01 Jan 26 12:08:32    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/1/2026 11:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 1/1/26 9:45 AM, olcott wrote:       >> *When we analyze this one statement made in isolation*       >       > Which is invalid, as it ignore the context of the statement.       >       >>       >> ...We are therefore confronted with a proposition which       >> asserts its own unprovability. … (Gödel 1931:40-41)       >>       >> G asserts its own unprovability.       >>       >> G asserts that there are no sequence of inference       >> steps that prove that they themselves do not exist.       >       > No, G asserts, by its interpretation in M, a meta-system of F with       > additional axioms, that there exist no FINITE sequence of inference       > steps IN F that prove the statement G.       >              That is not what G itself says. That is merely the       extra baggage of one man's way of examining G.              The barest essence of G is:       G asserts its own unprovability.              When we examine what this semantically entails:       G asserts that there are no sequence of inference       steps that prove that they themselves do not exist.                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca