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   Message 58,960 of 59,235   
   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: Computing truth values from finite s   
   03 Jan 26 20:44:30   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.lang   
   XPost: sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/3/2026 7:43 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/3/26 7:14 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/3/2026 6:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 1/3/26 5:59 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/3/2026 4:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 1/3/26 5:15 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> All deciders essentially: Transform finite string   
   >>>>>> inputs by finite string transformation rules into   
   >>>>>> {Accept, Reject} values.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Thus making   
   >>>>>> "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"   
   >>>>>> inherently computable.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Nope.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How does that answer the question of the truth of the statement:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All Even Number greater than 2 are the sum of two primes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is not a member of the body of knowledge.   
   >>>> My system only applies to the body of knowledge.   
   >>>   
   >>> And thus is admittedly, not a logic system, which is about a body of   
   >>> truths derived from axioms and rules.   
   >>>   
   >>> In fact, you system can never learn anything new, as that wasn't part   
   >>> of that body, so isn't allowed.   
   >>>   
   >>> So, all you are doing is admitting you have been on a wrong track for   
   >>> decades, you you were never actually looking at logic systems.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> We are probably already too late and the world   
   >> will be killed by climate change hired liars.   
   >>   
   >> My system could have prevented that but having   
   >> trollish fun carried more weight than preventing   
   >> the end of life an Earth.   
   >   
   > Nope, your system of lies is what you say is causing the problem.   
   >   
   > Your problem is you don't understand what truth actually is.   
   >   
   > This is shown just by the fact that you beleive the LLMs you talk with.   
   >   
      
   Do you understand the correct semantic entailment   
   on the basis of expressions of language that are   
   stipulated to be true derives conclusions that are   
   necessarily true?   
      
   YES you understand   
   or   
   NO you fail to understand   
      
   --   
   Copyright 2026 Olcott

              My 28 year goal has been to make
       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
       reliably computable.

              This required establishing a new foundation
              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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