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|    Oleksiy Gapotchenko to polcott    |
|    Re: Proof that the halting problem itsel    |
|    06 Jan 26 01:24:39    |
      XPost: comp.theory, comp.software-eng       From: alex.s.gap@gmail.com              Just an external observation:              A lot of tech innovations in software optimization area get discarded       from the very beginning because people who work on them perceive the       halting problem as a dogma. As result, certain practical things (in code       analysis) are not even tried because it's assumed that they are bound by       the halting problem.              In practice, however, the halting problem is rarely a limitation. And       even when one hits it, they can safely discard a particular analysis       branch by marking it as inconclusive.              Halting problem for sure can be better framed to not sound as a dogma,       at least. In practice, algorithmic inconclusiveness has 0.001       probability, not a 100% guarantee as many engineers perceive it.              On 12/11/2025 12:03 AM, polcott wrote:       > On 12/10/2025 4:58 PM, wij wrote:       >> On Wed, 2025-12-10 at 16:43 -0600, polcott wrote:       >>> When the halting problem requires a halt decider       >>> to report on the behavior of a Turing machine       >>> this is always a category error.       >>>       >>> The corrected halting problem requires a Turing       >>> machine decider to report in the behavior that       >>> its finite string input specifies.       >>       >> If you honestly admit you are solving POO Problem, everything is fine.       >>       >       > *It has take me 21 years to boil it down to this*       >       > When the halting problem requires a halt decider       > to report on the behavior of a Turing machine this       > is always a category error.       >       > The corrected halting problem requires a Turing       > machine decider to report in the behavior that       > its finite string input specifies.       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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