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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: Systems such as PA with proof-theore    |
|    15 Jan 26 21:59:31    |
      XPost: sci.logic, sci.math, comp.theory       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/15/2026 9:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 1/15/26 7:24 PM, olcott wrote:       >> On 1/15/2026 5:10 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       >>> I understand a schematic system is one whose deduction rules or,       >>> perhaps, inference rules (if there's a difference) are specified as       >>> axioms of the same system.       >>>       >>> 1. Can that be a syntactical system or a formal system just as well and       >>> still be called a schematic system?       >>>       >>> 2. Suppose it's a positive intuitionist system, what are the most       >>> notable things to consider vis-a-vis extensions?       >>>       >>       >> A formal system anchored in proof-theoretic semantics       >> with PA as its axioms expresses all of PA and is not       >> incomplete.       >>       >>       >       > Put you can't do that.       >       > The problem is that the axiom of induction isn't compatible with proof-       > theoretics as I understand it.       >              As you fail to understand it. Look deeper.       G can be expressed in my system yet is       rejected as semantically non-well-founded.              > That, or you end up with issues that the existance or non-existance of a       > number that meets a property might not be a truth-bearing statement, and       > you can't tell if it is, until you find the answer.       >       > This makes "Truth" not a fixed quantity, which isn't very satisfying for       > a logic system. Knowledge might change, but truth shouldn't.                     --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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