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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
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|    20 Jan 26 15:23:08    |
      XPost: sci.logic, sci.math, comp.theory       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/19/2026 11:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       >> My system is not supposed to decide in advance whether       >> Goldbach is well‑founded. A formula becomes a truth‑bearer       >> only when PA can classify it in finitely many steps.       >> Goldbach may or may not be classifiable; that’s an open       >> computational fact, not a semantic requirement. This has       >> no effect on Gödel, because Gödel’s sentence is structurally       >> non‑truth‑bearing, not merely unclassified.       >       > Which shows that you don't understand what logic systems are.       >       > The don't "Decide" on truths, they DETERMINE what is true.       >       > Your problem is that either there is, or there isn't a finite length       > proof of the statement.       >       > Semantics can't change in a formal system, or they aren't really semantics.       >       > Your problem is you don't understand Godel statement, as it *IS* truth       > bearing as it is a simple statement with no middle ground, does a number       > exist that satisfies a given relationship. Either there is, or there       > isn't. No other possiblity.       >       > You confuse yourself by forgetting that words have actual meaning, and       > that meaning can depend on using the right context.       >       > Godel's G is a statement in the system PA.       >       > It is a statement about the non-existance of a natural number that       > satisfies a particular computable realtionship.       >       > It is a statement defined purely by mathematics and thus doesn't       > "depend" on other meaning.       >       > It is a mathematical FACT, that for this relationship, no matter what       > natural number we test, none will satisfy it, so its assertation that no       > number satisfies it makes it true.              PA augmented with its own True(PA,x) and False(PA,x)       is a decider for Domain of every expression grounded       in the axioms of PA.              A system at a higher level of inference than PA can       reject any expressions that define a cycle in the       directed graph of the evaluation sequence of PA       expressions. Then PA could test back chained inference       from expression x and ~x to the axioms of PA.              --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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