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   olcott to All   
   Re: a subset of Turing machines can stil   
   23 Jan 26 11:24:04   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/23/2026 10:29 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 1/23/26 2:19 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/22/2026 11:21 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 1/22/26 3:58 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> It is self-evident that a subset of Turing machines   
   >>>> can be Turing complete entirely on the basis of the   
   >>>> meaning of the words.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Every machine that performs the same set of   
   >>>> finite string transformations on the same inputs   
   >>>> and produces the same finite string outputs from   
   >>>> these inputs is equivalent by definition and thus   
   >>>> redundant in the set of Turing complete computations.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Can we change the subject now?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> no because perhaps isolating out non-paradoxical machine may prove a   
   >>> turing-complete subset of machines with no decision paradoxes,   
   >>> removing a core pillar in the undecidability arguments.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> FYI, five LLMs have all agreed that I have conquered that.   
   >   
   > but no humans have and that's what actually counts   
   >   
      
   *It really does seem to me that I am a human*   
      
   Also HHH(DD) Really does correctly detect the   
   non-well-founded cyclic dependency in the   
   evaluation graph.   
      
   https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c   
      
   It has done this for three years now. The only thing   
   that has changed is the words I use to describe what   
   it does. This anchors my ideas in the well established   
   ideas of others. Here are the exactly correct terms:   
      
      Within well-founded proof theoretic semantics   
      anchored in the operational semantics of the   
      c programming language HHH(DD) is correct to   
      reject its input as non-wellfounded.   
      
   >>   
   >>> sure maybe that's not the only pillar ... but it's the pillar that   
   >>> was known about and used the most, so if it was invalid that should   
   >>> indeed be very exciting   
   >>>   
   >>   
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       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
       reliably computable.

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