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|    dart200 to olcott    |
|    Re: a subset of Turing machines can stil    |
|    23 Jan 26 08:29:32    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math       From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid              On 1/23/26 2:19 AM, olcott wrote:       > On 1/22/2026 11:21 PM, dart200 wrote:       >> On 1/22/26 3:58 PM, olcott wrote:       >>> It is self-evident that a subset of Turing machines       >>> can be Turing complete entirely on the basis of the       >>> meaning of the words.       >>>       >>> Every machine that performs the same set of       >>> finite string transformations on the same inputs       >>> and produces the same finite string outputs from       >>> these inputs is equivalent by definition and thus       >>> redundant in the set of Turing complete computations.       >>>       >>> Can we change the subject now?       >>>       >>       >> no because perhaps isolating out non-paradoxical machine may prove a       >> turing-complete subset of machines with no decision paradoxes,       >> removing a core pillar in the undecidability arguments.       >>       >       > FYI, five LLMs have all agreed that I have conquered that.              but no humans have and that's what actually counts              >       >> sure maybe that's not the only pillar ... but it's the pillar that was       >> known about and used the most, so if it was invalid that should indeed       >> be very exciting       >>       >                     --       arising us out of the computing dark ages,       please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,       ~ nick              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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