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|    olcott to Mikko    |
|    Re: The Halting Problem asks for too muc    |
|    24 Jan 26 08:18:34    |
      XPost: sci.logic, sci.math, comp.theory       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/24/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:       > On 22/01/2026 18:47, olcott wrote:       >> On 1/22/2026 2:21 AM, Mikko wrote:       >       >>> Anyway, what can be provven that way is true aboout PA. You can deny       >>> the proof but you cannot perform what is meta-provably impossible.       >       >> The meta-proof does not exist in the axioms of PA       >> and that is the reason why an external truth in       >> an external model cannot be proved internally in PA.       >> All of these years it was only a mere conflation       >> error.       >       > It is perfectly clear which is which.       > But every proof in PA is also       > a proof in Gödel's metatheory.       >              ∀x ∈ PA ( True(PA, x) ≡ PA ⊢ x )       ∀x ∈ PA ( False(PA, x) ≡ PA ⊢ ¬x )       ∀x ∈ PA ( ¬WellFounded(PA, x) ≡        (¬True(PA, x) ∧ (¬False(PA, x)))                     --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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