XPost: sci.logic, comp.theory, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 06/03/2026 00:09, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > On 03/05/2026 12:46 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   >> On 05/03/2026 17:12, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Actually we have an entire canon, dogma, and doctrine,   
   >>> and can rather ignore much of 20'th century "Foundations",   
   >>> as an exercise in the examination and testing of   
   >>> quasi-modal logic as failed,   
   >>   
   >>> ex falso quodlibet as failed,   
   >>   
   >> Really? That's very hard to believe. I have seen "from falsity not from   
   >> falsity after all", and "from falsity start again pretending not to". 5   
   >> year olds do those as a matter of course.   
   >>   
   >> Do we create Homo Simulamen without recourse to ex falso quodlibet or do   
   >> we rely on it to achieve that?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > It's simply a matter of ex falso nihilum,   
      
      
   Haskell Curry was wondering something similar back in 1958, but it seems   
   to me that a consequence of it being so is that general structural   
   induction is unavailable and some attempts to use it result in death   
   with no intermediate inferences. I think therefore I might die?   
      
   Do you find that the formal systems can be consequentially restricted?   
      
   I wonder: If I'm wrong, do I cease to exist?   
      
   Are there well-known treatments of that philosophy?   
      
      
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