From: already5chosen@yahoo.com   
      
   On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 05:27:15 GMT   
   anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:   
      
   > BGB  writes:   
   > >Still sometimes it seems like it is only a matter of time until   
   > >Intel or AMD releases a new CPU that just sort of jettisons x86   
   > >entirely at the hardware level, but then pretends to still be an x86   
   > >chip by running *everything* in a firmware level emulator via   
   > >dynamic translation.   
   >   
   > Intel has already done so, although AFAIK not at the firmware level:   
   > Every IA-64 CPU starting with the Itanium II did not implement IA-32   
   > in hardware (unlike the Itanium), but instead used dynamic   
   > translation.   
      
      
   That's imprecise.   
   First couple of generations of Itanium 2 (McKinley, Madison) still had   
   IA-32 hardware. Gone in Montecito (2006).   
   Dynamic translation of application code was available much earlier,   
   indeed, but early removal of [crappy] hardware colution was probably   
   considered too risky.   
      
      
   >   
   > There is no reason for Intel to repeat this mistake, or for anyone   
   > else to go there, either.   
   >   
   > - anton   
      
   As said by just about everybody, BGB's proposal is most similar   
   to Transmeta. What was not said by everybody is that similar approach   
   was tried for Arm, by NVidia none the less.   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Denver   
      
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