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   John Levine to All   
   Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural    
   12 Oct 25 02:37:40   
   
   From: johnl@taugh.com   
      
   According to Anton Ertl :   
   >John Savard  writes:   
   >>On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 08:58:32 +0000, Anton Ertl quoted:   
   >>> |If somebody really wants to create bad hardware in this day and age,   
   >>> |please do make it big-endian, and also add the following very   
   >>> |traditional features for sh*t-for-brains hardware:   
   >>   
   >>I think that for a computer to be big-endian is a good thing.   
      
   Garrrgghhhhhhhh, not this again.   
      
   >Whatever the technical merits of different byte orders may be (and the   
   >names "big-endian" and "little-endian" already indicate that far more   
   >discussion has been expended on the topic than these merits justify   
   >),   
   >little-endian has won, and that's its major merit, and big-endian's   
   >major demerit.   
      
   Yup. I really wish the arguments about which order is "more natural"   
   would stop since they're just people's cultural preconceptions. I   
   imagine that if my first language were Arabic or Hebrew, I would find   
   left-to-right big-endian core dumps much less readable than the   
   familiar looking right-to-left little-endian ones.   
      
   But as you correctly said, the fight is over, little-endian has won,   
   let's argue about something else.   
      
   IEN 137 said everything worth saying about this topic 45 years ago.   
      
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien137.txt   
      
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   Regards,   
   John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for   
   Dummies",   
   Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly   
      
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