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   MitchAlsup to All   
   Re: Tonights Tradeoff   
   14 Nov 25 00:43:07   
   
   From: user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) posted:   
      
   > BGB  writes:   
   > >Can note that GCC seemingly doesn't support 128-bit integers on 64-bit   
   > >RISC-V.   
   >   
   > What makes you think so?  It has certainly worked every time I tried   
   > it.  E.g., Gforth's "configure" reports:   
   >   
   > checking size of __int128_t... 16   
   > checking size of __uint128_t... 16   
   > [...]   
   > checking for a C type for double-cells... __int128_t   
   > checking for a C type for unsigned double-cells... __uint128_t   
   >   
   > That's with gcc 10.3.1   
   >   
   > >Also, doing 128-bit arithmetic on RV64 kinda sucks as there is   
   > >basically no good way to do extended precision arithmetic (essentially,   
   > >the ISA offers nothing more here than what C already gives you).   
   > >   
   > >Like, you can do what is essentially:   
   > >   c_lo = a_lo + b_lo;   
   > >   c_hi = a_hi + b_hi;   
   > >   if((c_lo >     c_hi++;   
   >   
   > You only need to check for c_lo either both be true or both be false.   
   >   
   > Here's 128-bit arithmetic on RV64GC (and very similar on MIPS and   
   > Alpha):   
   >   
   >           add     a4,a4,a5   
   >           sltu    a5,a4,a5   
   >           add     s8,s8,s9   
   >           add     s9,a5,s8   
   >   
   > RISC-V (and MIPS and Alpha) becomes relly bad when you need add with   
   > carry-in and carry-out (five instructions).   
      
   My 66000:  // 256-bit add   
             CARRY R15,{{O}{IO}{IO}{I}}   
             ADD   R12,R8,R24   
             ADD   R13,R9,R25   
             ADD   R14,R10,R26   
             ADD   R15,R11,R27   
   !!!!!!   
   >   
   > - anton   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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