From: nospam@nospicedham.nospam.invalid   
      
   Herbert Kleebauer wrote:   
      
   > If you think a simple tutorial can teach you assembly programing,   
   > then maybe are misunderstanding something. There are 3 parts of   
   > assembly programming:   
      
   I wasn't clear in my opening post if I said I wanted to "learn" assembly   
   language programming.   
      
   Just as a person can hike an existing trail that someone else dug out and   
   put all the steps and bridges and maps in place years before, I just want to   
   "walk the trail" of an existing assembly language programming tutorial.   
      
   If I had wanted to build my own trail, cutting steps in the snow, attaching   
   belay lines across the Hillary Step, staking down ladders across the Khombu   
   Icefall, designing my own oxygen cylinder breathing apparatus, designing my   
   own insulating clothing, testing out the chemicals for the rubber soles of   
   my boots, designing my own shoe laces, etc., I would have started with my   
   existing books by Peter Norton & Jeff Duntemann on Assembly Language   
   Programming, step by step.   
      
   I don't want to build the trail - I just want to follow the existing trail.   
      
   I'm not Lewis & Clark, where I have to build my own bridges and dig out my   
   own canoes just to figure out what's at the end of a river, where if I don't   
   portage across the waterfall, I'm dead (that's no fun).   
      
   I apologize that I wasn't clear in the opening post because I was under an   
   illusion that there existed an assembly language tutorial (much like the   
   Android Studio tutorial that exists) which simply walks you though the   
   steps, so that in an hour or two, you've already got a half dozen programs   
   working.   
      
   It's fun to follow a trail that someone else already built, but if I have to   
   chop down a tree to build my own canoe just to get across to the other side   
   of the river, then it's no fun anymore.   
      
   When I get to the other side of the river, I will find that there is no   
   trail, and worse, all there is on the other side is a never ending swamp of   
   bog after bog, which is "no fun".   
      
   Fun is a trail to get you to the river, and then a bridge to get across the   
   river, and then on the other side, someone put down duckboard to get across   
   the swamp, where they already knew the shortest way through the swamp to get   
   to the flowers that are growing at the piedmont.   
      
   Fun is an assembly language tutorial to get you across the river of   
   installing and assembling your first program, and then across the swamp of a   
   few examples, so that in an hour or two, you already have a half dozen   
   assembly language programs working.   
      
   After that, if you still want to step off into the peat bog, if you think   
   that's fun, you can do it - knowing that you can back up if you step into   
   quicksand, and you'll be back on the working duckboards.   
      
   Back to the original need, I will endeavor to find a tutorial that works on   
   the most common computer platform in the world, using whatever assembler   
   that tutorial suggests.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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