From: notsaying@nospicedham.127.0.0.1   
      
   On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:12:24 GMT, wolfgang kern   
    wrote:   
      
   > On 20.01.2021 13:47, paul wrote:   
   > ...   
   >> I just want to learn about assembly language by running a simple   
   >> tutorial.   
   >   
   > windoze is NOT simple. In terms of easy programming it is the WORST.   
   >   
   > I'm a low level programmer and know x86 instructions very well, but   
   > ASM tools are all different therefore I've gone the pure metal   
   > hex-way. And once (1999) I needed to learn about windoze in general   
   > because a paying client asked for such.   
   >   
   > similar to your problem I had no idea where to start and how to get   
   > info about available M$-functions.   
   >   
   > I found RosAsm (for 32bit windoze) and a lot of tutorials within it.   
   > With some help of alt.asm and clax I figured the basics of it.   
   >   
   > So after a few weeks I could sell my very first (also my last)   
   > win-app. Not sure if the RosAsm forum is still active. just check on   
   > it.   
   >   
   > Nasm is merely used by Loonix coders, Fasm(Fasmw) is fine for windoze.   
   > Masm is M$-crap (you already figured that)   
   > Masm32 is/was? an attempt to replace Masm.   
   > __   
   > wolfgang   
   >   
      
   I use nasm for DOS programs, but I've never graduated to an IDE, just an   
   edit, asm, debug cycle   
      
      
      
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   Bah, and indeed, Humbug.   
      
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