XPost: microsoft.public.sqlserver.newusers   
   From: genew@ocis.net   
      
   On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:21:35 +0100, Erland Sommarskog   
    wrote:   
      
   >Gene Wirchenko (genew@ocis.net) writes:   
   >> I suppose some might be due to slightly different versions. I   
   >> think that there are at least two downloads of SQL Server 2008   
   >> Express. Could anyone elaborate on this?   
   >   
   >For SQL Express, there are usually streamlined downloads for service packs.   
   >That is, you can download and install SQL 2008 SP2 in one go. With other   
   >editions you need to apply the service pack separately.   
      
    You may recall the experience I had getting SQL Server Express   
   running on my system. I tried to install the SP, and it failed. I   
   decided that I was not playing that game again.   
      
   >It is possible that there are differences in how database diagrams work   
   >between service packs. Then again, it is not that likely. The diagrams is   
   >a fairly old feature, and I don't think Microsoft touches it very much   
   >at all.   
      
    I was thinking of SSE as a whole, not any particular feature.   
      
   >I would also like to raise a word of caution of using the graphical   
   >tools in SSMS to create and moreover to change table definitions. There   
   >are serious flaws in how SSMS implement the table changes, of which some   
   >are not so directly apparent, which makes it even more devious. The   
   >diagrams as such may helpful to visualise the database, if you don't   
   >have a real data-modelling tool around (and they tend to be expensive,   
   >why many haven't.) But for actually creating tables you are better off   
   >with CREATE and ALTER TABLE.   
      
    Thank you for that bit. Do you have any examples of these   
   errors? A URL would be fine.   
      
    The book I am studying does both.   
      
   Sincerely,   
      
   Gene Wirchenko   
      
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