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   Nils Petter Vaskinn to Charlie-Boo   
   [OT] Re: Any progammers looking for a ki   
   02 Feb 04 15:12:44   
   
   XPost: comp.databases, comp.lang.c++, comp.lang   
   From: no@spam.for.me.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:39:39 -0800, Charlie-Boo wrote:   
      
   > "Haximus" <14356256546@spam.org> wrote   
   >> Hate to burst your bubble but the system already exists, it's called Usenet   
   >> and one can attach files to posts (say, sound files containing verbal   
   >> queries).  Also, the idea that you can simply make a verbal query and expect   
   >> a credible response in a timely fashion is ludicrous.  Whan was the last   
   >> time a search engine gave you exactly the answer you wanted on the first   
   >> try?  Human response is no more accurate, not unless your forums are   
   >> populated *only* with certified authorities on the subject matter at hand.   
   >   
   > I was just passing through and this caught my eye.  I couldn't resist   
   > responding.  "Hate to burst your bubble" - "already exists" -   
   > "ludicruos".   
      
   > Man, you are totally out of it.  Do you know what people   
   > said to Dave whats-his-face, the founder of Wendy's, when he said that   
   > he's going to open a hamburger chain (named after his daughter)?   
   > "Stupid idea.  There's already McDonald's"   
      
   People called X a bad idea.   
   X turned out to be a good idea.   
   People called Y a bad idea.   
   Y is a good idea.   
      
   Do you see the flawed logic?   
      
   And your comparison doesn't hold either. Your story is talking about   
   someone that was going sell a product that's basically the same as the   
   existing one. (I don't know Wendys but fast food hamburgers are all the   
   same IMHO). What we're dealing with here is someone that wants to push   
   different product, and then gets told that his product doesn't do some of   
   the things that makes the competition popular.   
      
   > Albert Einstein summed it up well: "Great spirits have always   
   > encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."   
      
   And people with bad ideas have always encountered violent opposition from   
   those that know better (especially on usenet). He asked for an opinion in   
   a public forum so he got it.   
      
   > I know.  I don't   
   > like to brag,   
      
   Good for you.   
      
   [snip bragging]   
      
   You don't like to brag but you included that when it's in no way relevant   
   to the discussion. (If you think it is, then tell me how you thinking   
   you're a genius makes the OP's idea any better)   
      
   But with qualifications like that you can probably do the OP's project for   
   him, and prove us all wrong when you make those millions.   
      
   > People will always be resistant to those who "think outside   
   > of the box" or try to get ahead or to make things better.   
      
   Yes we will. Which is why most of us didn't dwell too long on analyzing   
   why we thought the idea was bad. The OP got feedback on technical   
   obstacles to his idea. And he got feedback on what todays existing   
   solutions has that his solution (as described) lacks.   
      
   Now if he was to take that feedback and perhaps use it to improve on his   
   original idea he might be on the right track. But people like you telling   
   him to stick to his original idea and not take any feedback isn't going to   
   lead hin to success.   
      
   > To whoever posted the original idea: DON'T LET THE IDIOTS GET IN YOUR   
   > WAY! PLEASE!!  YOU WILL GET THE LAST LAUGH!   
      
   No he won't. He didn't believe enough in the idea himself to make an   
   effort to realize it.   
      
   Now if he does try to make something out of his idea I wish him luck. I   
   think the idea would fail, but instead of trying to "get the last laugh"   
   people told him why they thought that, in an effort to stop him from what   
   we would consider a waste of effort..   
      
      
   Followup set to comp.databases where this was the least off topic.   
      
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   NPV   
      
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