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|    Terry Coccoli to Daniel Roy    |
|    Re: Rule Based Optimization    |
|    05 Apr 04 22:09:59    |
      From: request@ifneeded.com              Daniel Roy wrote:              >>What happens if you throw in a hint like FIRST_ROWS? Would the       >>optimizer accept the hint ?       >       >       > If you throw any hint to a query (except "RULE"), cost-based       > optimizing is triggered. In that case, since you probably don't have       > any stats for your tables, Oracle will try to make up these stats by       > itself, using criteria such as number of extents used by a table (to       > estimate its size), ... Oracle usually does a decent job at making up       > these stats (from what I've seen), but of course it would be much       > better to have real up-to-date stats if you intend to use CBO for some       > queries. If you decide to go that route (use hints and gather the       > stats), make sure that OPTIMIZER_MODE (for the instance running       > Siebel) is RULE (and not CHOOSE), or otherwise CBO will be used for       > all the queries (including the ones from the Siebel application)       > running against the database, and your Siebel TAM will slap your       > fingers.       >       > Daniel Roy       > IBM       > Siebel/Oracle Consultant                     Thanks for the headsup, Roy. I think you've given me a couple of       questions that I need to discuss with the DBA.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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