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   Hans Forbrich to Ollie   
   Re: db2 vs oracle   
   27 Aug 04 13:19:30   
   
   XPost: comp.databases.ibm-db2   
   From: forbrich@yahoo.net   
      
   Flame wars .... here we come!    
      
   Ollie wrote:   
      
   > You're using a wrong approach to determine the RDBMS that will suit   
   > your need. The kind of application you're thinking of running should   
   > be the first concern. Are you goning to be running OLTP, DDS or   
   > datawarehouse application. I don't think Oracle will bet UDB, Sybase   
   > or SQL Server when it comes to OLTP application. As far as   
   > datawarehouse is concern, Sybase has a specific product that is design   
   > for that specific application called Sybase IQ.   
      
   Oracle is as good, if not better, with OLTP as the others.   
      
   Like any environment, you have to understand it properly to be able to use   
   it properly.   
      
   Statements like "I don't think Oracle will bet UDB, Sybase or SQL Server   
   ..." generally are based on "I learned how to do it efficiently on 'x' but   
   those principals don't apply to 'y' therefore 'y' is bad."   
      
   Of course, Ollie is using a traditional 'more competitor names is relevant'   
   tactic, conveniently forgetting that Sybase sold their soul to Microsoft by   
   giving them what is now SQL Server.   
      
   >   
   > The mistake organization make when picking database platform is the   
   > same kind I am seeing from the approach you're taken.  If you running   
   > mission critical application, then you should be concern about backup   
   > and recovery. Oracle backup and recovery is too complicated otherwise   
   > they won't need a 4 days training seesion on the topic. It takes a   
   > couple of hours to teach the same function in other platform. My point   
   > is that you have to think of what is important in the application   
   > you're running.   
      
   Oracle Backup and Recovery is not difficult - you do need to understand it   
   though.  Since backups are really only relevant for recovery, the course is   
   designed to give a large number of scenarios in recovery that you actually   
   practise so that you do not need to 'practise' or look like a dodo to   
   mamangement when a crash actually occurs.   
      
   Besides, the course includes other items, such as Oracle Networking.   
      
   My point is that Ollie is attempting to use irrelevant information, or pure   
   FUD, to prove his point.   
      
      
      
   Religion in software, like ignorance, is bliss.   
      
   /Hans   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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