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   From: datagoob@hotmail.com   
      
   Daniel,   
      
   Did it ever occur to you that you butted into a conversation as an uninvited   
   guest?   
   ( on several different points I might add )   
      
   Wouldn't it be better to let Mark speak for himself?  He was on a roll and I   
   was   
   getting some good information into the mind of Oracle marketing.   
      
   If you must butt in, show some courtesy and at least have the decency to put   
   your   
   drink down before ranting instead of spilling it all over people.  Dear god   
   man.   
      
   Anyway, I do appreciate your passion as well as Marks' but the devil is in the   
   details where I come from.  Marketing is wonderful but eventually Oracle has to   
   pony up with reality.  Sun is going through their reality check, along with   
   SCO,   
   for Oracle it's just a matter of time.  Larry doesn't have a vision for the   
   future because his vision has come and gone.  Once he steps aside the company   
   can morph, but if he stays too long it'll be the end of it.  Sun missed it, SCO   
   missed it, Unisys, DEC, the list gets longer every day.  As Gordon Gecko said,   
   it's not the survival of the unfittest.   
      
   Daniel Morgan wrote:   
   > Data Goob wrote:   
   >   
   >> Mark Townsend wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Data Goob wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually to get you back on track, read through Larry's book, the   
   >>>> words are   
   >>>> in the book, not quoting, but close enough, Oracle is more about   
   >>>> applications   
   >>>> than databases.  ( the book is "SOFTWAR" )   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I have the book. I have read the book. If you like to send me an   
   >>> address offline, I'll send it to you. Then you can actually quote   
   >>> chapter and verse to your heart's content.   
   >>>   
   >> Thanks but no thanks.  I'll rely on my brief encounter with this tour   
   >> de force in errors and omissions as having been enough reading about   
   >> Larry and his obsessions for a while.   It's a bit confusing to me   
   >> when it comes to Oracle people, but also Microsoft people as well,   
   >> are they passionate about the marketing or the technology?   ( I think I   
   >> already know the answer, no need to reply. )   
   >   
   >   
   > Away with the facade of caring about truth and accuracy? This is the new   
   > century and if politicans and lawyers can ignore the facts why not you   
   > too is what I take away from your comment.   
      
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