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   Message 1,837 of 2,288   
   Rhino to Larry E   
   Re: Comparison of DB2 and Oracle?   
   18 Oct 04 11:24:42   
   
   XPost: comp.databases.ibm-db2   
   From: rhino1@NOSPAM.sympatico.ca   
      
   "Larry E"  wrote in message   
   news:WtQcd.4328$YM4.1347973@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...   
   > Rhino,   
   >   
   > Frankly, if your friend Scott is a person who doesn't have a db   
   > background, he is not going to be able to understand any technical   
   > differentiators that are brought forth here (and their significance).   
   >   
   Excellent point. I was expecting to help him a bit with that part of his   
   search.   
      
   > Secondly, when you post and ask such questions here ... all you are   
   > going to get are people's opinions ... some very biased opinions.   
      
   That's why I was hoping to hear from people who had used both Oracle and DB2   
   but weren't employees (or resellers) of either of them. The marketing   
   information by the vendor always tends to be skewed in some way that is   
   favourable to the vendor but not necessarily a fair way.   
      
   > This   
   > stuff is almost religious to some people.   
      
   That's why I mentioned that I was not trying to start a flame war. Still, I   
   was quite prepared to ignore obvious zealotry on behalf of one product or   
   the other.   
      
   > The best thing that Scott can   
   > do is to:   
   >   
   > - fully understand his customer's requirements from a business and   
   > technology perspective   
   > - tap into someone like Gartner, Mega, Giga for independent opinions on   
   > each dbms   
      
   There you go; you've just answered Question 2 in my original post. I'm   
   familiar with Gartner and can probably find a website for them but I'm not   
   familiar with Mega or Giga at all. Can you suggest some URLs or at least   
   tell me the full names of these companies so that I can start searching? A   
   Google search on "Mega" is going to give me a gazillion hits ;-)   
      
   > - search the tech media for any reviews of each product   
      
   Who would you consider the most reputable of the tech media with respect to   
   this sort of question, database comparisons?   
      
   > - call upon his local Oracle and IBM reps to bring whatever they can to   
   > the table   
   >   
   Absolutely; I had every intention of suggesting that to him but only AFTER   
   he had done his research FIRST.   
      
   > By the time he gets done here, his head is going to be spinning and he   
   > will be asking "so who is right and who do I listen to?"   
   >   
      
   Yeah, I know, that's how it always seems to go with these things. No matter   
   how dilligently you look at the options, there is always a load of bias and   
   hype to weed through before you get to something that appears to be   
   objective truth.   
      
   Rhino   
   >   
   > Rhino wrote:   
   > > "Mark Townsend"  wrote in message   
   > > news:4172BFFA.70603@comcast.net...   
   > >   
   > >>Rhino wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>>This is *not* a troll and we don't want to start a flame war! Scott   
   just   
   > >>>want some honest facts to help him decide which product is best at   
   which   
   > >>>jobs.   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >>Two things   
   > >>   
   > >>1) This WILL end in a flame war.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > So how can I ask this question in a way that will get a meaningful   
   answer   
   > > rather than in flames?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >>2) You have posted this message to a defunct Oracle group. If you insist   
   > >>on starting this at least use the right targets -   
   > >>comp.databases.oracle.server   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Thank you! As I said in my original post, I've never used Oracle so I   
   didn't   
   > > know that comp.databases.oracle was defunct. It had a few recent   
   on-topic   
   > > posts in it and I had no idea what its normal activity level is so I   
   tried   
   > > that one. I'll repost to the correct newsgroup now that I know what it   
   is.   
   > >   
   > > Rhino   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
      
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