XPost: comp.databases.ibm-db2
From: larry@nospam.net
Rhino wrote:
> "Larry E" wrote in message
> news:WtQcd.4328$YM4.1347973@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>
>>Rhino,
>>
>>Frankly, if your friend Scott is a person who doesn't have a db
>>background, he is not going to be able to understand any technical
>>differentiators that are brought forth here (and their significance).
>>
>
> Excellent point. I was expecting to help him a bit with that part of his
> search.
>
>
>>Secondly, when you post and ask such questions here ... all you are
>>going to get are people's opinions ... some very biased opinions.
>
>
> That's why I was hoping to hear from people who had used both Oracle and DB2
> but weren't employees (or resellers) of either of them. The marketing
> information by the vendor always tends to be skewed in some way that is
> favourable to the vendor but not necessarily a fair way.
>
>
>>This
>>stuff is almost religious to some people.
>
>
> That's why I mentioned that I was not trying to start a flame war. Still, I
> was quite prepared to ignore obvious zealotry on behalf of one product or
> the other.
>
>
>>The best thing that Scott can
>>do is to:
>>
>>- fully understand his customer's requirements from a business and
>>technology perspective
>>- tap into someone like Gartner, Mega, Giga for independent opinions on
>>each dbms
>
>
> There you go; you've just answered Question 2 in my original post. I'm
> familiar with Gartner and can probably find a website for them but I'm not
> familiar with Mega or Giga at all. Can you suggest some URLs or at least
> tell me the full names of these companies so that I can start searching? A
> Google search on "Mega" is going to give me a gazillion hits ;-)
Sorry ... it's "Meta Group" not "Mega". My fault.
>
>
>>- search the tech media for any reviews of each product
>
>
> Who would you consider the most reputable of the tech media with respect to
> this sort of question, database comparisons?
Perhaps CMP Media. Info Week, EWeek, Computerworld ...
>
>
>>- call upon his local Oracle and IBM reps to bring whatever they can to
>>the table
>>
>
> Absolutely; I had every intention of suggesting that to him but only AFTER
> he had done his research FIRST.
>
>
>>By the time he gets done here, his head is going to be spinning and he
>>will be asking "so who is right and who do I listen to?"
>>
>
>
> Yeah, I know, that's how it always seems to go with these things. No matter
> how dilligently you look at the options, there is always a load of bias and
> hype to weed through before you get to something that appears to be
> objective truth.
That's why you're just not gonna get what you're looking for here.
>
> Rhino
>
>>Rhino wrote:
>>
>>>"Mark Townsend" wrote in message
>>>news:4172BFFA.70603@comcast.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rhino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is *not* a troll and we don't want to start a flame war! Scott
>
> just
>
>>>>>want some honest facts to help him decide which product is best at
>
> which
>
>>>>>jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Two things
>>>>
>>>>1) This WILL end in a flame war.
>>>
>>>
>>>So how can I ask this question in a way that will get a meaningful
>
> answer
>
>>>rather than in flames?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>2) You have posted this message to a defunct Oracle group. If you insist
>>>>on starting this at least use the right targets -
>>>>comp.databases.oracle.server
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you! As I said in my original post, I've never used Oracle so I
>
> didn't
>
>>>know that comp.databases.oracle was defunct. It had a few recent
>
> on-topic
>
>>>posts in it and I had no idea what its normal activity level is so I
>
> tried
>
>>>that one. I'll repost to the correct newsgroup now that I know what it
>
> is.
>
>>>Rhino
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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