XPost: comp.databases.ibm-db2, comp.databases.oracle.server   
   From: rhino1@NOSPAM.sympatico.ca   
      
   "DA Morgan"  wrote in message   
   news:1098158866.213704@yasure...   
   > Rhino wrote:   
   >   
   > > "DA Morgan"  wrote in message   
   > > news:417323F9.5040605@x.washington.edu...   
   > >   
   > >>Rhino wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>>One of my friends, Scott, is a consultant who doesn't currently have   
   > >>>newsgroup access so I am asking these questions for him. I'll be   
   telling   
   > >   
   > > him   
   > >   
   > >>>how to monitor the answers via Google Newsgroup searches.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>Scott has heard a lot of hype about DB2 and Oracle and is trying to   
   > >>>understand the pros and cons of each product. I'm quite familiar with   
   > >   
   > > DB2   
   > >   
   > >>>but have never used Oracle so I can't make any meaningful comparisons   
   > >   
   > > for   
   > >   
   > >>>him. He does not have a lot of database background but sometimes has to   
   > >>>choose or recommend a database to his clients.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>Scott has enough life-experience to take the marketing information   
   > >   
   > > produced   
   > >   
   > >>>by IBM and Oracle with a grain of salt and would like to hear from real   
   > >>>DBAs, especially ones who are fluent with both products, for their   
   views   
   > >   
   > > on   
   > >   
   > >>>two questions:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>1. What are the pros and cons of the current releases of DB2 and   
   Oracle?   
   > >>>   
   > >>>2. What other sources of *independent* information are available to   
   help   
   > >>>someone new to databases choose between DB2 and Oracle?   
   > >>>   
   > >>>This is *not* a troll and we don't want to start a flame war! Scott   
   just   
   > >>>want some honest facts to help him decide which product is best at   
   which   
   > >>>jobs.   
   > >>   
   > >>DB2 consists of two letters and one integer and Oracle consists of 6   
   > >>letters and no integers.   
   > >>   
   > >>This is not the first time you have tried to start a flame war and your   
   > >>previous attempt is logged in my database.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > > Please name another time I've tried to start a flame war. If you look in   
   > > comp.databases.ibm-db2 you'll find that I am usually a responder to   
   people's   
   > > questions and usually only start my own posts when I have a technical of   
   my   
   > > own. If you look in comp.databases.oracle you'll find that I've never   
   posted   
   > > there before because, as I said, I am not familiar with Oracle.   
   > >   
   > > Can you suggest a better way to ask my question? I am trying to figure   
   out   
   > > how someone having to choose between Oracle and DB2 would choose one   
   over   
   > > the other. Surely that is a legitimate question that many people have   
   had to   
   > > answer.   
   > >   
   > > Rhino   
   >   
   > I am still far from convinced your question is sincere.   
   >   
   Well, I don't know how to convince you of that beyond what I've already   
   said.   
      
   > But if it is the nonsense about a friend that is so wholly uneducated he   
   > couldn't handle a stack of 3x5 cards is preposterous on its face.   
   >   
   I've only mentioned my friend's first name because I am trying to protect   
   his privacy but he definitely exists. If you like, I'll ask him for   
   permission to specify his full name, mailing address, and phone number and   
   then you can contact him to ask if he really exists.   
      
   He is rather new to systems work - I think he is just out of school - and he   
   doesn't had much contact with databases yet. He has heard names like Oracle   
   and DB2 and asked me which was best. I have no Oracle experience so I   
   suggested he post here and on the Oracle newsgroup but he doesn't have   
   newsgroup access at work or at home so I posted for him.   
      
   Now maybe that seems preposterous to you but it happens to be the truth.   
      
   > So if you are serious ... ask serious questions. Do you think a hammer   
   > is the best tool for assembling a precision watch? Do you think a   
   > microscope appropriate for putting the propeller on an aircraft carrier?   
   > You give an exact description of the need and someone might think you   
   > seriously trying for something other than a flame war.   
      
   I don't think Scott has a specific requirement in mind yet so I thought I'd   
   ask a general question on the pros and cons of DB2 vs. Oracle. If that   
   doesn't suit you, feel free to ignore this thread. It would be more positive   
   that calling me a liar.   
      
   Rhino   
      
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