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   Message 387 of 2,288   
   Neil Truby to Jim Kennedy   
   Re: Company thought DB2 will be better t   
   14 Sep 03 01:52:07   
   
   XPost: comp.databases.informix, comp.databases, comp.databases.ibm-db2   
   From: neil.truby@ardenta.com   
      
   "Jim Kennedy"  wrote in message   
   news:KZM8b.440312$uu5.78501@sccrnsc04...   
   >   
   > "Mark A"  wrote in message   
   > news:wGM8b.797$TJ.83525@news.uswest.net...   
      
   > > Developers should not be doing binds in a production environment.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > Doesn't matter, in order for them to get the programs from one environment   
   > to another they needed to compile their code in production to bind it.   
   > (according to that group) It was a large company and we were just a small   
   > part of  one group. (It was a mainframe after all.)  The point being DB2   
   was   
   > poorly designed with respect to concurrency.  No reason more than one   
   person   
   > should not be able to bind at a time. It means that "ad hoc" or dynamic   
   sql   
   > on DB2 means everyone serializes behind it.  That is very very ugly.  Sure   
   > one can administratively work around it by telling everyone not to use a   
   > feature of the database, still it is a severe limitation.   
      
   My point of raising the issue of bind was to demonstrate what a law unto   
   itself IBM is, using this (warning, red-rag phrase alert!) dated concept   
   beyond its sell-by date.   
      
   I suppose we only comment upon it unfavourably because, er, well, because we   
   comment upon it unfavourably.  If it were some killer piece of functionality   
   that set DB2 UDB above the herd, we'd talk about in awesome tones ....   
      
   A personal take on the wider debate is that DB2 UDB sites are few and far   
   between here in the UK, so far as our market and sales team can tell.  We   
   come at this subject from the Informix side.  Of course, many customers are   
   abandonning Informix because of the negative vibes they are getting from   
   ISVs, or maybe from IBM themselves.  Will they go to DB2?  Well, presumably   
   they chose Informix because they had some good reason not to go with the   
   market leader.  That strategy has bitten them in the arse.  Surely they   
   aren't going to risk obsolesence again by choosing another marginal player   
   in the UNIX/Linux/NT space?  And, irrrespective of its merits - and I write   
   as a DB2 UDB certified professional - that's what DB2 UDB is in this space.   
      
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