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   RickM to Leslie Milburn   
   Re: Embarcadero - what does this meanfor   
   13 May 08 18:45:48   
   
   From: nospam@nospam.com   
      
   Leslie -   
   Thanks for your response and confirmation of some of the things I had been   
   thinking.  From your standpoint, keeping the BDE unchanged is a good thing.   
    I hadn't thought about it that way - but I can see what you mean.   
      
   I had hoped this might mean some positive news for Paradox, but I'm more   
   inclined to believe like yourself, that BDE will remain largely ignored despite   
   all this corporate juggling.   
      
   Given the prevalence of other popular free software DBs like MySQL and   
   PostgreSQL   
   - and there's even a "desktop" style database a la Paradox and Access that   
   comes with OpenOffice.org - perhaps even open sourcing would fail to breathe   
   new life.  But I still maintain that it's a happy possibility, despite the   
   licensing conflicts involved.  Maybe it wishful thinking, but I would love   
   to see what the Paradox faithful would do with it if given the chance!   
      
   As for Paradox on Vista - I contacted Corel tech support about a year ago   
   and was told 2 things: 1. that Corel's official stance is that Paradox is   
   in "maintenance" mode, meaning, as it was explained, that no new releases   
   or bug fixes are planned for the future. And 2- there is, however, a Vista   
   patch in the works, but when I asked when it might be released, I was told   
   that they had no idea, and that they "wish they could tell me"  Now it's   
   been over a year since Vista's release and still no patch -  it's looking   
   more like vaporware all the time.  But I have read some good reports that   
   others have gotten it to work on Vista. I haven't tried it yet, but from   
   what I understand it's mostly a matter of moving some of the executables   
   out of the main Program Files directory.  No surprise, as this problem isn't   
   for Paradox alone.  IIRC, it's caused because of the way microsoft has altered   
   the permissions on that directory, and other apps have needed the same   
   modification   
   to run on Vista.   
      
   I also agree that the move to all 64 bit architecture is in no way imminent.   
    It's certainly not planned for Windows 7 in 2010, and almost certainly won't   
   happen in the foreseeable future.  Given this, I think that Paradox potentially   
   still has many years of usefulness ahead of it, despite it's frozen state!   
      
   Best regards!   
   Rick   
      
      
    "Leslie Milburn"  wrote:   
   >   
   >"RickM"  wrote in message   
   >news:482766d9$1@pnews.thedbcommunity.com...   
   >>   
   >> Someone please help me because I have been trying to sort this out as   
   to   
   >> what is in store for the future of Paradox and if there is any hope of   
   it   
   >> being upgraded and improved upon and bug fixed.   
   >   
   >Don't hold your breath !!!   
   >   
   >> Corel owns Paradox, but they don't own the BDE, and that is the heart   
   of   
   >> Paradox.  In my understanding that is why Corel has not or not been able   
   >> to improve upon Paradox.  That and the fact that it would be a very   
   >> expensive   
   >> endeavor for them, in a market that is already owned by MS Access, it   
      
   >> almost   
   >> seems like a no-win situation for them, despite the dedicated legions   
   who   
   >> haunt newsgroups like this.   
   >   
   >Correct.   
   >   
   >> Now that Embarcadero has purchased Codegear, what does this mean for the   
   >> future of BDE/Paradox?  Embarcadero makes database tools... do they have   
   >> their own replacement for DbExpress/BDE planned?  Will they sell BDE to   
      
   >> Corel?   
   >> Does Corel even want it?  Will they open the doors to Corel to work with   
   >> and improve BDE?   
   >   
   >What it means is the (hopefully) the BDE will be completely ignored and   
   thus   
   >unchanged !!!   
   >   
   >   
   >> Maybe at some point they will open source the BDE.. could you imagine?   
      
   >> That   
   >> might be the answer to Paradox's woes.   
   >   
   >This will not happen in my lifetime - they use the excuse that it contains   
      
   >proprietry code but IMO if they are still using concepts that old then they   
      
   >need to give it all away.   
   >   
   >> I apologize in advance if any of my info/conjecturing is less than 100%   
      
   >> accurate.   
   >> That's why I'm posting here, to get feedback and clarification from others   
   >> who might know more.   
   >   
   >IMO the BDE is frozen in time. This is a good thing because it means it   
   is a   
   >known quantity and we can mess around with it (slightly). The downside is   
      
   >that at some point the BDE may stop working but I strongly doubt it until   
      
   >many many years into the future and perhaps it might take computers   
   >migrating away from 32 Bit into a 64 Bit only world (with no backwards   
   >compatibility) for it to totally fail. After tweaking and hacking away at   
      
   >it, I am happy to say the BDE runs find under Windows Vista.   
   >   
   >Paradox For Windows on the other hand is a slight more worrisome. I cannot   
      
   >comment too much as my experience is way too old to be valid, but reading   
      
   >some of the posts here, it appears that Paradox still has some issues under   
      
   >Windows Vista, others will no doubt let you know.   
   >   
   >Rgds   
   >Leslie.   
   >   
   >   
      
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