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   Noons to Mladen Gogala   
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   26 Jul 17 21:26:04   
   
   From: wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au   
      
   On 24/07/2017 6:44 @wiz, Mladen Gogala wrote:   
      
   > I am confused by the intensity of the spam campaign. It obviously cannot   
   > produce any results, yet it continues unabated. It looks like someone is   
   > doing his very best to extinguish this group. I have a very good idea who   
   > that might be, but I don't have a shred of evidence.   
      
   Don't bother, it's an Oracle bot.  It's been openly admitted already in   
   a few other places that the intention is to finish this newsgroup once   
   and for all.   
   If nothing else, to make sure that only "approved" posts get seen.   
      
   > other Oracle forums are also becoming boring. It looks like Oracle is no   
   > longer able to provoke minds and interesting discussions, in general.   
      
   Tell me about it.  I totally gave up when in December 2014 I was able to   
   organize a talk - for free! - from none other than Chris Date at the DBA   
   user group I was helping to run here in Sydney.   
      
   36 folk registered and wrote to thank me for organizing such a great   
   meetup.  6 showed up on the day.  I walked to the MSSQL UG meeting next   
   door and asked if they wanted to join us.  They could not believe it was   
   Chris Date speaking and filled the room in no time!   
      
   With this sort of "interest" by the users and not a single word of   
   encouragement or ANY help from Oracle for the 6 years I helped run that   
   group, should I care anymore?   
      
   But I'm constantly told that the only people that can run shows are the   
   ones granted ACE status by Oracle (which is a LIE: Oracle does not grant   
   ACEdom, other Aces do and propose folks for it!).   
      
   Did that stop someone from Oracle dumping on me at the Oracle Code   
   seminar here last week that I should not "bad mouth" "Aces" even though   
   I never did?   
   I have ALWAYS bad mouthed the concept.  Never the people.   
      
   This despite a well known Ace and book author who is now tweeting almost   
   every day about Mongo DB and has yesterday published a page where he   
   recommends "folks design data structures that avoid joins so that Mongo   
   DB can handle the data more efficiently".   
   Effing UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE!   
      
   Let alone the multitude of other Aces who have left Oracle in the last   
   24 months and are now actively promoting competitive products.   
      
   As usual, not a single word about it from those who claim I "bad mouth"   
   Aces...   
      
   But with Aces like that, I agree: why the hell bother about this company   
   and its RDBMS product?   
      
   Ah well, of course it's the fault of the "bad dbas".   
   Who else?   
   Bloody idiots...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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