From: gogala.mladen@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:44:29 +0000, jeremy wrote:   
      
   > Do you regard AWS RDS as "the future" and the future which, discounting   
   > any persoanl bias regarding employment for Oracle DBAs, is "a good   
   > thing" - or is this a commodity, untuned, untunable except by the £££   
   > (for I am in the UK) approach - but which will succeed because it's   
   > simple?   
      
   Jeremy, RDS and DBaaS offering in general are meant for consumer   
   companies who do not have neither stuff nor capability to operate an   
   Oracle database and want only to run off the shelf application for taxes,   
   general ledger or warehouse. Those are generally smaller to medium   
   companies with relatively simple application structure, usually something   
   akin to the proverbial "Ma's and Pa's Grocery Store". That is a database   
   equivalent of an Android tablet: consumer electronic, very limited in its   
   capabilities, but extremely useful an practical, as long as you are using   
   it for web surfing, email and mobile banking. The moment you attempt to   
   write a Python script on an Adroid tablet, you will run into   
   unsurmountable problems. RDS and other DBaaS offerings in general are the   
   same thing: you can get your DB installed, backed up and maintained by   
   the provider, run your application of choice, all withoud an expensive IT   
   staff. Specialization has always been a trend in any technology.   
   Companies used to have huge IT departments, with head counts in hundreds,   
   developing their own applications, having their own system and database   
   administrators, developers, project managers, service and helpdesk   
   personnel and, last but not least, IT security personnel. COTS   
   applications like  Salesforce, SAP, Oracle EBS, EPIC and alike have cut   
   down the need for the mammoth IT departments. And technical specialists   
   were hard to come by and very well paid, which was straining the company   
   budgets. I live in New York City. If a company can afford not to rent the   
   entire floor of a building in midtown Manhattan, just to house the IT   
   department, that is a very significant saving, not to mention the savings   
   on the payroll side. Companies like Dominoes, Dunkin' Donuts, Macy's or   
   Walgreens can go back to what they do, and that's not IT. RDS, off the   
   shelf applications and remote DBA companies like Pythian or F3 Partners   
   are the solution.   
      
      
   >   
   > As a slight aside, I heard that Oracle SE on Oracle Cloud (PaaS)   
   > includes TDE (whereas you need EE and some option if hosted elsewhere).   
   >   
   > I also heard that Oracle for RDS is "different" in some ways to the   
   > regular Oracle. Keen to find out from experts if this is a commercial   
   > thing or technical.   
   >   
   > --   
   > jeremy   
      
   I have tested Oracle for RDS extensively, there is nothing different   
   about it. You only don't get to interact with the machine it's running   
   on, that's all.   
      
      
      
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   Mladen Gogala   
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