From: gogala.mladen@gmail.com
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:05:02 -0700, Noons wrote:
> On Friday, 16 August 2019 23:46:20 UTC+10, jeremy wrote:
>> In article > 1a93876be99d@googlegroups.com>, It's a real shame to have a technical
>> group with some incredibly knowledgeable and helpful posters involved
>> pretty much daily to be overrun like this - to the exent that it has
>> been abandoned.
>>
>> I wonder if these adverts actually generate any interest?
>
> No idea. But one things is for sure:
> This is not needed anymore and the group should be deleted.
> Not that the people who created it would be interested in anything to do
> with Oracle anymore...
I disagree. This is an excellent honeypot for spammers. I have created
several useful filters which keep other Usenet groups clean by using this
group.
As for this group, it has been dead for a very long time. Oracle list is
also slowly dying, no traffic there, either. The main enforcer of
political correctness on oracle-l has retired, or so I was told. The
reason why this group and oracle-l both are no longer useful is rather
complex and can be attributed to Oracle Corp. in its entirety.
- Information is doled out in a very controlled manner, documentation
quality is horrendous. The documentation is unreadable. I used to read
the DBA guide for each new version from cover to cover. The last version
that it was possible to do so was 8i. There was definite break with
tradition at the time of 9i. That was also the time Cary Millsap has
left Oracle. Now, if you want really useful information you have to
pay for "Oracle Master" class and certification. It ain't cheap.
- Market is flooded with "oracle certified persons" and "oracle certified
administrators". That brings the price down. When the price goes down,
interest drops, as well as the quality of the people practicing the
trade.
- Outsourcing and cloud have done their parts. Businesses no longer have
their own IT staff, they have system administrators and network admins,
that's about it. You don't need a DBA to install, backup or recover a
RDS database. If RDS instances are not big enough, Oracle has "Exadata
in the cloud", which is ridiculous. Exadata is a data warehouse machine
which speeds up full table scan and therefore star schema and snowflake
schema. The main point of having Exadata was to have a hardware monster
to boost your DW performance. BTW, all Exadata database nodes are
virtual as of X7-2. The only reason to have "Exadata in the cloud" is
to be able to use zone maps. And you need a good DBA to know how to use
them.
Basically, job of an Oracle DBA is no longer glamorous or particularly
appreciated one. That means that the quality of the DBA personnel has
dropped significantly. That is a self-reinforcing process which continues
until this day. The newly minted DBA personnel is mostly young and
unaffected by the IT sub-culture of the 20th century. I was interviewing
a guy few years ago and he didn't know the airspeed velocity of an
unladen swallow. Instead, he complained about "discriminatory question"
to the HR. Fortunately, my boss was smart and there were no consequences.
People who know what the "swallow question" is all about are the people
who were hanging out on Usenet. The whole IT sub-culture has changed. I
have recently encountered a Java programmer who has asked me "what is
Slashdot". With folks like that, there is no future for Usenet.
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