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   Garrett Wollman to redacted@telecom-digset.org.invalid   
   Re: What's New In 5G [telecom]   
   10 Sep 20 21:47:01   
   
   From: wollman@bimajority.org   
      
   In article <327d1461-7d5b-4e5f-9000-cc45dd463deco@googlegroups.com>,   
   HAncock4   wrote:   
   >On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:31:51 AM UTC-4, Bill Horne wrote:   
   >   
   >> The next-generation of wireless technologies-known as 5G-is here....   
   >   
   >I heard the old cell phones ("3G") will no longer work effective   
   >January 1st.   
   >   
   >Would anyone know how to identify if an old phone is 3G?   
      
   It depends on the phone.  Usually you can look up the model number and   
   find out what sort of radio module it has in it -- anything that   
   doesn't support "LTE" is toast.  That includes all "CDMA" technologies   
   (LTE is also Code-Division Multiple-Access but isn't "CDMA" brand   
   CDMA) and all "classic GSM".  (The carriers that supported IS-135   
   "TDMA" sunsetted it in favor of GSM when they rolled out "3G", so   
   there is no longer any IS-135 service anywhere.)   
      
   It's a bit sad for many time geeks like me; IS-95/IS-2000 CDMA has a   
   nice feature that it transmits a GPS-synchronized timecode (accurate   
   to within a few microseconds), which could be used to derive a network   
   timing standard without needing a rooftop antenna (or a subscription);   
   when CDMA sunsets, those of us who have CDMA timecode receivers will   
   lose our precision timing source.  (I have a work-owned GPS receiver   
   at home, but because of ISP delays it can't provide nearly as good a   
   timebase as the CDMA receiver at the office.)   
      
   -GAWollman   
      
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   ***** Moderator's Note *****   
      
   I used to work in the VZ engineering group that handled SS7 and   
   Timing. The Engineer who worked on timing had a favorite joke:   
   whenever anyone asked him what time it was, he'd say "Nobody knows!"   
      
   Bill Horne   
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