From: michael.trew@att.net   
      
   On 11/25/2021 23:37, Bill Horne wrote:   
   >   
   > my cellular needs have always been modest, even   
   > before I retired, and I thought that $30 per month would serve me very   
   > well, especially since the "smart" phone was costing me over $70 on each   
   > bill, with it's postpaid plan.   
   >   
   > The phone came with the box: an off-brand unit made in China. I set up   
   > the account, agreed to the monthly debit, and turned it on, and ...   
   >   
   > Then, problems appeared, and nobody at Verizon knows how to fix them...   
   >   
   > Bill Horne   
      
   It's like this with T-mobile, and many other retailers.  I've heard   
   others echo your findings.  Basic and flip phones are a very small   
   market now, and they are of terrible quality.   
      
   When my old Nokia 3390 started to give up about a year ago, I found a   
   used iPhone SE model, and got used to it.  As I understand it, there   
   aren't any quality basic phones still made.   
      
   That being said, there are industrial-type flip phones that are still of   
   good quality, if you are willing to pay.  Here's a Verizon example, on   
   Amazon.com (I shortened the URL):   
      
   https://tinyurl.com/2wr7frv4   
      
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