From: johnl@taugh.com   
      
   According to Bill Horne  :   
   >> Is there a projected date for when 4G will no longer be supported by   
   >> the cellular carriers?   
   >For practical purposes, Verizon is removing 4G on December 31,   
   >2022.   
      
   No, they're turning off 3G at the end of the year.   
      
   What's confusing is that some of the carriers lied about their early   
   "4G" phones which were really 4G data but 3G voice, so they will stop   
   working when 3G turns off. Full 4G is sometimes called 4G VoLTE.   
      
   Doubly confusing is that some 4G phones have VoLTE but some carriers   
   or MVNOs don't turn it on. I have a Samsung S9 that no longer works on   
   Tracfone because they can't turn on its VoLTE with a Verizon SIM which   
   is all they have now.   
      
   But it works on Ting which is also Verizon underneath.  Beats me.   
      
   At this point I'd suggest Ting if you don't use much data, for   
   $10/mo for voice+SMS, and $5/GB shared among all phones on your   
   account.  Or Mint for $15/mo for voice+SMS+4GB if you pay a year   
   at a time.   
      
   Mint has a one week free trial at https://www.mintmobile.com/free-trial/   
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