From: fQRMgoldstein@ionary.com   
      
   On 7/30/2022 6:08 PM, Bill Horne wrote:   
   > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:17:48AM -0700, Fred Atkinson wrote:   
   >> Folks,   
   >>   
   >> I have a question.  I've searched the Internet and so far I have not   
   >> found the answer.   
   >>   
   >> Is there a projected date for when 4G will no longer be supported by   
   >> the cellular carriers?   
   >>   
   >> If there isn't an exact date for 4G to go away as yet, is there any   
   >> kind of rough projection?  A year, two years, etc.?   
   >   
   > For practical purposes, Verizon is removing 4G on December 31,   
   > 2022. The company had said that it would continue into 2023, but then   
   > they sent me a letter saying that my wife's "4G LTE" phone didn't meet   
   > their criteria for 4G, and that I would have to buy a new phone -   
   > limitied to "their" brand of 4G, of course - to continue her 4G   
   > service.   
   >   
   > I've decided to do without both Verizon Mobile and their deceptive   
   > marketing: I got a 5G phone for myself and switched to Ting. My wife's   
   > "4G LTE"ng phone will need to be replaced, most likely with the same   
   > brand and model that I have, but I might put an Internet-only texting   
   > and talk app on it, give her mine (again ...), and use the 4G LTE phone   
   > around my home, since we'll have her phone when we travel.   
      
   LTE isn't going away. "5G" is a set of extensions to LTE, and mostly   
   compatible with older devices on the older bands. Verizon is discon-   
   tinuing 3G (CDMA) service, turning off cells this year. And it may be   
   requiring LTE phones to support Voice over LTE (VoLTE) as their method   
   of voice calling, which is not perfectly standardized across devices.   
   So there may be some older LTE phones that still used CDMA for voice   
   and LTE for data. Those are toast. I just bought a new 4G LTE (no 5G)   
   phone for use on Verizon and there seems to be no risk about losing   
   support. Verizon still sells some such models, like the Motorola G   
   Power.   
      
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