XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.software.firefox   
   From: newyana@invalid.nospam   
      
   On 1/16/2025 9:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 2025-01-15 15:04, Newyana2 wrote:   
   >>      I just tried Vim for the   
   >> first time. It looks like a relic from 1980, without even support for   
   >> non-fixed-width fonts. Really? That's your favorite editor? Few people   
   >> actually hand-code HTML anymore, but there must still be decent   
   >> editors around.   
   >   
   > Vim is certainly ancient (it is a clone of 'vi'), but it is actively   
   > developed. It is designed for Linux/Unix (all linuxes and unixes have it   
   > by default), and it has tons of features, but you have to be accustomed   
   > to it in order to profit from them.   
   >   
   > It is a plain text editor, not a word processor. It makes no use of   
   > proportional fonts, that would be ridiculous. Many programmers use and   
   > love it, and will have you shot if you dare criticizing it :-P   
   >   
      
       Indeed. People can be quite irrational in their attachment to   
   the past, like a man who insists on making a campfire to cook   
   his dinner because "that's how we did it growing up". But it   
   gets more irrational when people make excuses to claim that   
   their campfire works better than a stove. The Internet is loaded   
   with such editors, that are deliberately designed not to have   
   any conveniences. In fact, I've noticed a new fashion of white   
   on black GUI, trying to make all windows look like console. But   
   I don't know if it's the old men or the kids who are promoting   
   that fad. (My own cmd.exe is set to a white window with dark   
   brown text. There's no actual reason that it needs to look like   
   a DOS screen out of 1990.)   
      
       Forcing only fixed-width fonts, though, is something I've never   
   seen before. I use Notepad for plain text editing and my own   
   editor for HTML. In both I use Verdana because it's clear for   
   reading and wide enough to easily see typos. Neither plain text   
   nor code requires fixed-width.   
      
      I'm imaging two cranky old men. One proclaims that he will   
   only eat food from a campfire. The other teases him for using   
   matches instead of rubbing sticks together.   
      
       None of this has anything to do with actually coding HTML,   
   which would make sense to do in an editor designed for the job.   
   Arlen is talking about writing automations in gvim to convert   
   UTF-8 to ANSI text, or writing BAT files to automate editing a   
   simple HTML file. So our two campfire buddies are not even   
   actually cooking their dinner. They just like to feel rustic. :)   
      
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