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   Lawrence D'Oliveiro to Carlos E.R.   
   Re: How to edit HTML source file on Wind   
   22 Jan 25 00:09:13   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.software.firefox   
   From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 13:28:12 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
      
   > On 2025-01-21 05:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The IDE has the debugger inside. I launch the IDE, the IDE does the   
   >>> debugging. Not a stand alone debugger.   
   >>   
   >> What difference does it make? Why do you want the debugger to run   
   >> in the same process as the IDE? Do you want it to run in the same   
   >> process as your program? That’s not how debuggers work on modern   
   >> systems.   
   >   
   > It doesn't matter if it is the same process. It matters that this is   
   > what defines a complete and powerful IDE ...   
      
   No, that is just how it was done back in the days when you thought single-   
   tasking MS-DOS was the bee’s knees. Your IDEs had to provide all this   
   functionality built-in because there was no way to call it externally.   
      
   That’s not how we do things on *real* computers. We run the debugger in a   
   separate process so that program crash cannot kill the debugger. The   
   debugger is just another off-the-shelf component, that can be used from   
   any editor/IDE, so you can mix and match your preferred components to I   
   your own DE: Integrate your own Development Environment, just the way you   
   like it. You don’t have to take or leave what some single vendor provides.   
      
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