XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-02-01 20:16, Marion wrote:   
   > On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 14:55:50 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
   >   
   >   
   >>> SD card terminology confuses people because there are at least 3 terms:   
   >>> 1. Volume ID (CID)   
   >>> 2. Volume Serial Number   
   >>> 3. Volume Name (aka Volume Label)   
   >>   
   >> You can change them in Linux.   
   >>   
   >> Going from memory, one of them you change in the partitioner (fdisk).   
   >> This one was crucial with Windows 7 because M$ would use it to detect   
   >> machine change or pirated copy.   
   >>   
   >> All these changes can be done without formatting and losing the content.   
   >   
   > Hi Carlos,   
   >   
   > You bring up a good point that I did a bad job of explaining the problem   
   > set (& hence, in your appreciation of the sheer elegance of the solution).   
   >   
   > Mea culpa.   
   > I apologize.   
   >   
   > It's (almost certainly) my fault that you & Andy (& perhaps many others)   
   > are (apparently) confused about sd card use & terminology; specifically,   
   > the reason why one would benefit by changing the Volume Name (aka Label).   
   >   
   > For sdcards, portable memory is not the same thing as portable storage.   
   >   
   > Hence, from this moment, I'll STOP using the word "memory" in terms of sd   
   > card terminology as I will use the more apt term of "storage" for sd cards.   
   >   
   > That is, portable memory is not at all the same thing as portable storage.   
   > And it's MY FAULT for muddying up the waters on that distinction.   
   >   
   > Hopefully my prior response to Andy will clear up that I am only discussing   
   > here how to *seamlessly* double (or triple or quadruple or whatever) your   
   > Android portable mem... ah, er, um "storage" (for only about ten bucks).   
   >   
   > Note: I get all my sd cards for free off of Amazon Vine; but most people   
   > have to pay for their stuff on Amazon, so I'm assuming it costs them $10.   
   >   
   > Please be acutely aware of the fact that the elegance isn't in doubling or   
   > tripling your storage. The elegance is in the word "*seamless*".   
   >   
   > The editor has no clue that you just swapped out the sd card to a new one!   
   > But, of course, the editor has to prior be aware of storage on the sd card.   
      
   I don't use editors on phone nor tablet.   
      
   And, my editor by default inserts photos inside the document file. I can   
   link to external photos, but then, as I use Linux, I would use relative   
   paths or symlinks.   
      
   Also I *never* edit a file residing in flash storage. I edit in main   
   storage in the computer, then copy the result over to flash media if needed.   
      
   >   
   > That is, all your modern editors (which is why I stressed the word "modern"   
   > in the original post) "should" be able to find their files on your portable   
   > memory sd card where, if you use this insightful trick, they won't even   
   > know that you just doubled the sd storage space that the editors have   
   > access to.   
   >   
   > I feel sorry for people who don't have Android phones with sd card slots.   
   > Because if they want to double their portable storage, they can't.   
      
   I haven't had that need in over a decade.   
      
   >   
   > It's impossible (without adding hardware that sticks out of the phone).   
   >   
   > Hence, I already explained to Andy (where lurkers can benefit) that there   
   > is no way (that I know of) for *him* to double his portable memory (for ten   
   > bucks anyway). But most Android phones still have sd card slots (AFAIK).   
   >   
   > Now that we have the concept of "portable storage" clarified, let's look at   
   > what people are confused about in the three typical sd card identifiers.   
   >   
   > Why would we want to control the value of *any* of these?   
   > 1. Volume ID (CID)   
   > 2. Volume Serial Number   
   > 3. Volume Name (aka Volume Label)   
   >   
   > Ignoring that the Volume ID is not changeable by the user, and hence has no   
   > value to us in controlling how Android editors find their sd card files...   
   > To your point of being easily able to change the other two using Windows   
   > (or Linux), why would you want to change the Volume Serial Number?   
   > Is there some value that you see in doing that which I don't yet comprehend   
   > which makes doing so of value in terms of controlling Android file editors?   
      
   Fooling Windows into thinking you have not changed computer. Windows   
   used that value for finding pirated copies.   
      
   Also you need to write those values when cloning hard disks (or flash   
   media).   
      
   Storage cards are formatted the same as a hard disk. They contain   
   partition tables, and all the identifiers of a hard disk and the   
   partitions inside. And all the tools Windows or Linux have available for   
   hard disks will work on them.   
      
      
   >   
   > Remember, the whole point is that a simple elegant trick on Windows (or   
   > Linux) done years ahead of time, makes it seamless to double (or triple)   
   > the sd portable storage that is available to your modern Android editors.   
   >   
   > If a symlink will work on non-root Android, then that's the Holy Grail.   
   > CHANGE FROM: /storage/sdcard1/ABCD-ABCD/{my editor's folders & files)   
   >   
   > CHANGE TO: /storage/sdcard1/symlink/{my editor's folders & files)   
   > or perhaps... CHANGE TO: /storage/symlink/{my editor's folders & files)   
   >   
   > I have never been able to accomplish that illustrious glorious task.   
   > Can you?   
   > How?   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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