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   Marion to Carlos E.R.   
   Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portab   
   02 Feb 25 23:42:10   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 15:07:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
      
      
   >> You don't use offline maps for example? Really? Seriously?   
   >> How do you navigate using your phone when there is no Internet signal?   
   >   
   > Till today I had no idea you were talking of map editors. I was thinking   
   > text editors.   
      
   I apologize for not providing examples of which editors store their data on   
   the sdcard, where I openly admit I may have accidentally not provided   
   enough data for others to understand the complexity of the problem set.   
      
   My goal, always, is to *seamlessly* port from any one phone to any other   
   phone, where by "seamless", I mean that I've (brilliantly) planned years   
   ahead (just as I do on Windows) for the certainty of porting all my data.   
      
   It has been widely stated that there are only three certainties in life:   
    a. Porting your data   
    b. The battery will eventually meet its charge-cycle-limit death, and,   
    c. Taxes (even on my free phone, I had to pay 10% California sales tax)   
      
   Unfortunately, my iPhone dies sooner than my Android due to the excessively   
   cheap batteries Apple puts into them; but at least the EU is forcing Apple   
   to no longer sell any iPhone that doesn't meet the bare-minimum battery   
   charge-cycle lifetime specs - which Apple barely meets with the iPhone 15.   
      
   > No, I do not use map editors on my phone, either.   
      
   Well, I hike a lot in the Santa Cruz Mountains, where I proved, long ago   
   how atrociously inaccurate the Open Street Maps are (which is too bad, as I   
   *love* the concept of open source topographic maps); so I have to do a   
   *lot* of map editing.   
      
   Lately, even though I've written many a tutorial on how to edit map data, I   
   generally use the free 1:24K geopdf USGS maps (which I understand are not   
   useful to people outside of the country). I've also shown people how to   
   navigate in every state & federal park in the USA with iOS & Android apps.   
      
   In addition, I have written many a tutorial on how to take any map PDF and   
   then georeference it such that it displays where you are on both iOS &   
   Android devices when you're nowhere near the Internet.   
      
   I've shown people how to draw a route and then how to follow that route,   
   where there are no street signs in the middle of the mountains out here   
   such that people are lost for days (due to the steep topography I guess).   
       
      
   It turns out that there is a *lot* of map editing to do when you're   
   actually using dead reckoning to get from point A to point B in mountains.   
      
   But it wasn't only map editors that I was thinking about.   
   It was all editors on Android that don't actually edit multimedia files.   
      
   Multimedia, as we covered separately, finds itself. :)   
      
   > I use map apps that view the map, not edit them.   
      
   Well, that's understandable, but even if you never *edit* the maps, you   
   still have to store offline maps *somewhere*, where, they're never small.   
      
   I pity people who don't have access to portable storage, and no, the cloud   
   is not the same thing (which those clueless Apple trolls can't fathom).   
      
   >> Another editor is Keepass2Android. There are plenty of Android editors.   
   >> Most (if not almost all) my private data is stored on the sd card.   
   >   
   > I don't "edit" my password file on the phone.   
      
   Well, to be perfectly open, as always, I "usually" do the same as I strive   
   to only edit the passwords kdbx file on Windows, and then I only read it on   
   Android - but sometimes - rarely - but sometimes - I need to edit it too.   
      
   To continue to add value, I've found the most compatible Windows free   
   password editor to be KeepassXC (cross compatible with Mac, Win & Linux).   
       
      
   I've tested *all* of them though, every single one that was ever suggested   
   on both the Android & Windows newsgroups, where on Android, I found that   
   Keepass2Android appears to be the most cross compatible with KeepassXC:   
       
      
   >>> And, my editor by default inserts photos inside the document file.   
   >>   
   >> Photo editors are a different breed of app when it comes to "finding" their   
   >> files. I'm not sure *how* media is handled differently than, oh, say, text   
   >> files such as GPX files or PDF files or whatever - but there is some   
   >> "magic" on a phone that seems to find all media, no matter where it is.   
   >>   
   >> So media (such as images & video) I think is a special case in this regard.   
   >>   
   >> That is, even if you changed the volume name (aka volume label) of your sd   
   >> card, the image & video editors still seem to *find* the sd card files.   
   >>   
   >> If those on this newsgroup can edify us as to why that magic only works for   
   >> media files, and not for, oh, say, text files (such as GPX files), please   
   >> elucidate why other formats (such as PDF, gpx, kml, etc.) aren't easily   
   >> found.   
   >   
   > Because "editor" to me is a text editor, and I was thinking of the one I   
   > use, Libre Office Writer. Ok, a word processor. If I have to edit pure   
   > plain text files they are just a few kilobytes in size.   
      
   Yeah. I agree. %EDITOR% means a *lot* of editors, as you can see from my   
   screenshots earlier today - where I must have hundreds of editors installed   
   (every single one of those editors I have tested, at least briefly, myself)   
       
      
   Note in that screenshot alone, you see editors of all these types:   
      \software\editor\3d   
      \software\editor\android   
      \software\editor\assembler   
      \software\editor\audio   
      \software\editor\calendar   
      \software\editor\checksum   
      \software\editor\codec   
      \software\editor\convert   
      \software\editor\download   
      \software\editor\epub   
      \software\editor\exif   
      \software\editor\hex   
      \software\editor\icon   
      \software\editor\lang   
      \software\editor\ocr   
      \software\editor\passwd   
      \software\editor\pic   
      \software\editor\pspdf   
      \software\editor\readthis.txt   
      \software\editor\screenrec   
      \software\editor\snapshot   
      \software\editor\suite   
      \software\editor\tts   
      \software\editor\txt   
      \software\editor\vid   
      \software\editor\watermark   
      \software\editor\xml   
      
   In any one of those top-level editing categories, are more editors, e.g.,   
   just for Android editors alone, that are on Windows, I have tested these:   
      \software\editor\android\adb   
      \software\editor\android\apk   
      \software\editor\android\app   
      \software\editor\android\as   
      \software\editor\android\cast   
      \software\editor\android\cpu   
      
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