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   Carlos E.R. to Marion   
   Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portab   
   03 Feb 25 02:21:36   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-02-03 00:42, Marion wrote:   
   > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 15:07:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
      
   ...   
      
   >> I use map apps that view the map, not edit them.   
   >   
   > Well, that's understandable, but even if you never *edit* the maps, you   
   > still have to store offline maps *somewhere*, where, they're never small.   
      
   I don't need to store the entire map of the USA, or the entire Europe   
   either. Just Spain, Ontario, and Quebec, to be precise. Actually, I   
   accidentally downloaded to my phone a lot of podcasts and they use more   
   gigabytes than my maps.   
      
      
   ...   
      
   >>> Do you copy them from the sd storage to main storage just to edit them?   
   >>> Why?   
   >>   
   >> Because the wear in flash cards is limited, and using an editor in   
   >> such media stresses them.   
   >   
   > Hmm... I get what you are saying, but I've never worried about the wear of   
   > sdcards. I'm sure it happens. But how much does it happen?  I don't know.   
   >    
   >   
   > Anything I don't know, I look up, so here's what I found just now.   
   >   Factors influencing SD card wear:   
   >   a. Frequency of writes   
   >   b. Amount of data written  c. Quality of the card   
   >   d. Wear leveling   
   >   e. Environmental factors (e.g., temperature & physical damage)   
      
   Flash media, ie, usb sticks or storage cards, do not have wear   
   levelling. Ok, maybe some units out there do, but mere mortals don't   
   have them. SSDs do.   
      
   I have seen USB sticks die "soon" because they were used frequently for   
   office use, I mean, normal word or excel files that were edited directly   
   in there. I don't know how many writes you can do, but it is limited and   
   it is reachable.   
      
   I also have seem storage cards used on tiny computer (think a Pi) die.   
   Also heard of some Tesla car failing because the internal computer   
   storage died of so much use, simply because of frequent log writing.   
      
   It does happen.   
      
   The internal media of phones is much more resilient than the plugable   
   cards, by the way. Unless you happen to have crap phones and excellent   
   cards.   
      
   >   
   > That having been said, this guesstimates about a 10-year life for sdcards:   
   >    
   >   
   > Interestingly, one recommendation that article above makes is:   
   >   f. Avoid filling it to capacity   
      
   That's well known, but it is only true if the media has wear levelling.   
      
   >   
   > Interesting value added, is it not?   
   >   
   > Thanks for bringing up the type of editors being important, as I learned a   
   > lot simply by responding to your valid concerns. Much appreciated!   
   >   
      
   Welcome.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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