XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 2/6/2025 5:42 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:20:21 -0500, Paul wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 2/6/2025 4:00 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 22:48:55 -0500, Paul wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I'm editing a text file from an EXT4 partition, using nothing but   
   >>>> Microsoft-provided tools.   
   >>>   
   >>> And a whole Linux kernel. And you did mention bash, which is part of   
   >>> the GNU app suite, is it not? So it seems like your Windows userland   
   >>> has no direct access to that Linux kernel.   
   >>>   
   >> But I nevertheless, have access to EXT4, using nothing but   
   >> Microsoft-provided software.   
   >   
   > You mean you consider that Linux kernel and GNU app suite to be   
   > “Microsoft-provided”? Even though Microsoft had little or nothing to do   
   > with the development of that software?   
   >   
      
   $ sudo disktype /dev/sda   
      
   --- /dev/sda   
   Block device, size 388.4 MiB (407298048 bytes)   
   Ext4 file system   
     UUID nil   
     Volume size 388.4 MiB (407298048 bytes, 99438 blocks of 4 KiB)   
      
   $ sudo disktype /dev/sdb   
      
   --- /dev/sdb   
   Block device, size 16.00 GiB (17179873280 bytes)   
   Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian   
     Swap size 16.00 GiB (17179865088 bytes, 4194303 pages of 4 KiB)   
      
   $ sudo disktype /dev/sdc   
      
   --- /dev/sdc   
   Block device, size 1 TiB (1099511627776 bytes)   
   Ext4 file system   
     UUID F722DDB4-B8E6-4D0A-A5BE-4EC49B24314C (DCE, v4)   
     Last mounted at "/distro"   
     Volume size 1 TiB (1099511627776 bytes, 268435456 blocks of 4 KiB)   
      
   It's a containerized environment, which lacks substantial details.   
   Most of what you see in /dev is fake. And the above declarations,   
   have nothing to do with my three NTFS partitions seen in Bash shell.   
      
   C:\134 /mnt/c 9p rw,dirsync,noatime,aname=drvfs;path=C:\;uid=100   
   gid=1000;symlinkroot=/mnt/,mmap,access=client,msize=65536,trans   
   fd,rfd=6,wfd=6 0 0   
   H:\134 /mnt/h 9p rw,dirsync,noatime,aname=drvfs;path=H:\;uid=100   
   gid=1000;symlinkroot=/mnt/,mmap,access=client,msize=65536,trans   
   fd,rfd=6,wfd=6 0 0   
   S:\134 /mnt/s 9p rw,dirsync,noatime,aname=drvfs;path=S:\;uid=100   
   gid=1000;symlinkroot=/mnt/,mmap,access=client,msize=65536,trans   
   fd,rfd=6,wfd=6 0 0   
      
   No, it's not out-of-the-box Linux. Neither is the graphics   
   stack exactly as seen on any other Linux. The graphics stack   
   does not seem to be accelerated, as near as I can determine.   
      
   You'll notice that GLXGears is not locked to VSync, and I   
   don't need to give a directive to unlock it from the screen.   
   Again, graphics are virtualized and composited somehow. and   
   one thing I notice, is there is no flashing as was seen in   
   other OSes via Terminal Services (WinXP Mode on Win7 used to   
   flash a bit).   
      
   $ glxgears   
   623 frames in 5.0 seconds = 124.494 FPS   
   558 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.500 FPS   
   555 frames in 5.0 seconds = 110.852 FPS   
   559 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.648 FPS   
      
   A significant effort has put into that, and this is not   
   the usual level of incompetence. Pros did this.   
      
   They're willing to spend the money to get the right people.   
   Too bad the Windows side wasn't that good (I search for   
   evidence of intelligent life, but have few examples   
   to build on). Much of what is done on the Windows side,   
   is to meet some hidden agenda, and it takes me forever   
   and a day to spot the pattern. Such as the pattern that   
   Microsoft is trying to remove all proprietary drivers   
   from the system. So everything will be done with the   
   equivalent of class drivers. And where they can't meet   
   that objective, they have the manufacturer ( NVidia)   
   containerize their stuff, to insulate it from the OS.   
      
      Paul   
      
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