From: janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com   
      
   [ Sorry for the response per email, Eli. - I'm not used to my   
      new system environment, and it's not yet set up completely. ]   
      
   On 11/16/25 00:01, Eli the Bearded wrote:   
    > In comp.editors, Janis Papanagnou     
   wrote:   
    >> In a new Linux system installation I'm presented a Vim 9 version.   
    >> It seems to be completely incompatible with the various releases   
    >> that I used before.   
    >   
    > I'm using vim 9.1.1696 today and not noticing any difference of note   
   since   
    > 7.x days. Clearly our usage is different.   
      
   Or I was probably just confused about the default behavior in   
   my clean new environment and about the error messages that I   
   provoked with my tries to reestablish my previous configuration.   
      
    >   
    >> When I was looking on the net for some older release I got always   
    >> directed to version 9, though. (I'm obviously missing something?)   
    >   
    > Pick a tag, any tag:   
    >   
    > https://github.com/vim/vim/tags   
      
   Thanks.   
      
    > I have not poked around much, but there seems to be every patch from 7.0   
    > on as a tag.   
    >   
    > git clone https://github.com/vim/vim && cd vim   
    > git checkout v8.2.2121   
    > ./configure [ OPTIONS ] && make   
    >   
    >> Can someone provide a link to some Vim release where modelines and   
    >> all the other things work as in former (pre-Lua or whatever) times?   
    >> Some source code tar-ball would be okay. - Thanks.   
    >   
    > Modelines? That's a touchy subject since modelines have been subject to   
    > many security patches over the years. I don't use modelines much, but   
    > have not noticed a change. I think my usage is limited to setting   
    > tabstops and case insensitive search in some files.   
      
   I've as well not many settings, usually less than a hand-full   
   of a set of about a dozen settings that I use.   
      
   I don't see (and certainly never noticed) any security issues   
   with those, though. But I'm anyway not using things (like script   
   code) beyond some elementary settings.   
      
    >   
    >> Or is there some other simple way to make Vim 9 behave like earlier   
    >> versions concerning the configuration files and user settings?   
    >   
    > The verbose :version output will tell you the compile time   
    > configuration. Here's what Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS reports for :version :   
    > [...]   
    >   
    >> PS: How did other Vim users perceive those changes in Vim releases?   
    >> (I'm just curious.)   
    >   
    > Like I said, I've been using vim 9 for a while and don't notice   
    > differences. I prefer a mostly vi compatible vim experience, however.   
      
   Now it seems I can also continue with Vim 9. - Thanks again.   
      
   Curious about 'compatible'...   
   As I understand it you don't get any Vim feature with that?   
   So you're actually just using old "Vi" functionality? (With   
   Vi's old bugs fixed, I suppose.)   
   That's interesting. While I find that old Vi contributed most   
   of what's basically the actual "Vim experience", but I also   
   think that Vim (Bram) managed to extend it sensibly within the   
   "Vi philosophy". (I like a lot of Vim's features and I'm using   
   not all but quite some that I wouldn't want to miss.)   
      
   Janis   
      
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