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|    Pete Becker to James K. Lowden    |
|    Re: ostream_iterator for map    |
|    14 Apr 12 11:27:02    |
      From: pete@versatilecoding.com              On 2012-04-13 22:28:09 +0000, James K. Lowden said:              > I would guess the commmittee's intention was to make the std       > namespace *standard* and thus predictable on inspection.              Not so much. Mostly it means you can count on it being there. Library       implementors can take liberties with how they define things under the       as-if rule: if a conforming program can't detect a difference, it's       okay. So a library vendor can add identifiers to std pretty much       without risk, because a conforming program won't use those       identifiers.              > They didn't want library vendors extending it.              No, just the opposite; if users can add to std they run the risk of       conflicting with implementation details and vendor extensions.              > But I don't see how anything I might add to std in my application       > could lead to, say, undefined behavior.              It leads to undefined behavior because the standard says that it does.       Undefined behavior means only that the standard doesn't say what that       code has to do. If you write code that has undefined behavior you have       to look elsewhere to know what it does. Sometimes that's compiler       documentation, sometimes it's experience and luck.              --        Pete       Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. (www.versatilecoding.com) Author of "The       Standard C++ Library Extensions: a Tutorial and Reference       (www.petebecker.com/tr1book)                      [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ]        [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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