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   Francis Glassborow to Christopher Dearlove   
   Re: C++11 Books coming?   
   31 May 12 12:32:58   
   
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   From: francis.glassborow@btinternet.com   
      
   On 31/05/2012 05:23, Christopher Dearlove wrote:   
   > C++11 is out, and even available at an affordable price (though I can   
   > read it at work even cheaper). But what I think we all mainly want is   
   > compilers that support it and books and similar resources that enable   
   > us to use it. I want at least some of the latter before I need the   
   > former. While useful as a reference, the standard is not how to learn   
   > what's new, and the various working documents that got rolled into the   
   > standard aren't that either. So far I have Scott Meyer's presentation   
   > pack, there's some material in Bjarne Stroustrup's FAQ list, and I've   
   > just ordered Josuttis' C++ library 2nd edition. (If not for the   
   > latter, I'd add some books about Boost, which provide some relevant   
   > material, but also have other value.) Anything else already out there   
   > would be useful.   
   >   
   > But I also see, from Amazon, a number of forthcoming books, that I   
   > otherwise haven't seen discussed. Ideally I'll get the authors   
   > commenting that they are providing exactly what I want. But other   
   > comments welcome.   
      
   How can they? They do not know what you want. However no top rank author   
   is going to waste time writing a book or a new edition that is anchored   
   in anything but the present. Unlike some lesser authors who simply   
   rechurn their (mis)understandings in each new book/edition these authors   
   take pride in producing a book that is both useful and as correct as   
   they can manage.   
      
   >   
   > Working from future to now, and just picking out the ones that look   
   > the highest potential to me:   
   >   
   > Speaking of C++: Practical Advice for Professional Code Developers by   
   > Herb Sutter and Jim Hyslop (May 2013 - I suspect this isn't relevant,   
   > unless a lot of work is going to be put into C++11-ing the columns I   
   > assume this is based on. But maybe.   
      
   With that publication date you can be certain that they will be   
   reworking those columns, else they would have published a year ago.   
   >   
   > C++ Templates by David Vandevoorde and Nicolai M. Josuttis (Jan 2013)   
   > - Just a reprint, or will this be a C++11 revision?   
      
   These authors are not going to waste time on a new edition (and the book   
   trade does not note reprints these days) unless it is updated for C++11   
   >   
   > C++ Programming Language by Bjarne Stroustrup (Jan 2013) Same comment.   
   > And I really hope the latter. (There's no cover illustration. that's a   
   > good sign I think.Though one that said C++11 would be better.)   
      
   Look at the author's track record. Of course it is about the current   
   (C++11) version of C++.   
   >   
   > Effective Concurrency in C++ by Herb Sutter (Dec 2012) I'd be   
   > surprised and disappointed if this isn't C++11 threads etc.   
      
   See above   
      
   >   
   > C++ Primer by Stanley B. Lippman, Josée Lajoie and Barbara E. Moo (Aug   
   > 2012) I just noticed this says completely rewritten for C++11 in small   
   > pront on the cover illustration. Will it include all of what's new?   
      
   Yes it does but it is a text for those learning the basics of C++. As   
   such it covers largely the same ground as the previous edition but has   
   been updated so as to cover that ground using the elements of C++11 that   
   were introduced to make teaching and learning C++ easier. It is not (nor   
   were the previous editions) a comprehensive text on C++   
   >   
   > C++ Standard Library, The: A Tutorial and Reference, 2/e by Nicolai M.   
   > Josuttis (23 May 2012). This says it's all of the C++11 library.   
      
   If it does its publicity lies because the author quite rightly says in   
   the preface:   
      
   Note, finally, that this book has a problem: although the book's size   
   grew from about 880 pages to more than 1100 pages, I still can't present   
   the C++ library as a whole. The library part of the new C++ Standard   
   alone now has about 750 pages, written in very condensed form ...   
      
   The art of teaching is not the art of presenting everything. It's the   
   art of separating the wheat from the chaff so that you get the most out   
   of it. May the exercise succeed.   
      
   Finally one you have missed:   
      
   C++ Concurrency in Action by Anthony Williams.  The author's name may   
   not be familiar to you but every author has a first book and this one   
   has been well worth waiting for. (You might also find Appendix A 'Brief   
   reference for some C++11 language features' useful)   
      
   Francis   
      
      
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