From: mordor.nospam@fly.srk.fer.hr   
      
   On 2012-07-03, Le Chaud Lapin  wrote:   
      
   > Thus is the essence of my argument. A C++ standard's body, of all   
   > organizations, plainly stated that C++/CLI is not C++, yet Microsoft   
   > persists in saying that it is.   
   >   
   > What is the truth? They cannot both be right.   
      
   Technically, they can't both be right, but establishing the truth   
   would require:   
      
      1. Establishing the formal semantics of ISO C++ (let's call it S1)   
      2. Establishing the formal semantics of C++/CLI (let's call it S2)   
      3. Use an automated system to prove or disprove that the set of   
         defined behaviors of S1 is a subset of the set of defined   
   	 behaviors of S2.   
      4. If it is proven that S2 is a superset of S1, then C++/CLI is C++.   
      
   Given that this has not been done, I consider the truth currently   
   "unknown", regardless of how the humans on both sides of the   
   discussion "feel".  The said humans are engaged in a political power   
   struggle with little technical merit.   
      
      
      
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