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   Richard to All   
   Re: Microsoft At It Again Calling C++/Cx   
   11 May 14 22:46:15   
   
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    thusly:   
      
   >[...] My question is still unanswered: If they   
   >don't want to cause confusion between C++ and C++/CLI then why don't   
   >they stop?   
      
   You assert not only that confusion was generated, but also that this   
   was their very motive and intent.   
      
   Can you cite anything to support these two assertions?   
      
   As I said, C++/CLI has been around for over a decade and in all my   
   interactions with programmers of all sorts -- even .NET programmers that   
   don't use C++ -- over the past decade or more, none have ever exhibited   
   any confusion.   
      
   Now maybe the programmers in Utah are just "smarter" than everyone else,   
   but somehow I doubt that.  They seem rather typical to me.   
      
   In fact, I'd expect C# developers who have never used C++ to be the ones   
   most susceptible to confusion, but they do not seem confused.  Ditto for   
   new students fresh out of school, they also seem uninfected (although   
   fewer of them each year come out of school proficient in C++, but rather   
   more proficient in Java or Python; so perhaps they are just unexposed).   
      
   In other words, from where I stand having interacted with many programmers   
   outside my coterie of coworkers, I see no evidence of confusion in the   
   least.  The sorts of interactions with the local programming community   
   are documented on my blog going back to 2007[*], but I was doing these   
   sort of things for a bunch of years before I was blogging about them.   
      
   What broad spectrum of programmers in the community have you   
   interacted with where you have seen this confusion?   
      
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