From: the.beez.speaks@gmail.com   
      
   On 21-04-2024 15:51, Hans Bezemer wrote:   
   > On 14-04-2024 17:23, mhx wrote:   
   >> I can only find it 50 times in 1352 files. It seems to pop up   
   >> when there are 3 strong-coupled parameters for a certain operation   
   >> (like your MOVE).   
   >   
   > Same thing here -even lower- about 20 times in 900 files. Curiously, 25%   
   > of them as a part of "-rot swap". With that frequency, I see little use   
   > of adding a word like "RISE". As a metaphor for certain stack   
   > operations, I don't think it's very compelling.   
   >   
   > I mean - a stack operator is like telling a story:   
   > - drop the 2OS item;   
   > - duplicate 2OS to 2OS;   
   > - duplicate TOS to 3OS;   
   > - swap 3OS with TOS.   
   >   
   > I can all easily imagine uses for that. "SWAP 3OS with 2OS" isn't   
   > telling me such a story. Sorry.   
   >   
   > Hans Bezemer   
      
   Yes, both Marcel and I saw a LARGE part of the "ROT SWAP" sequence was   
   part of "-ROT SWAP". I recently introduced : SPIN SWAP ROT ; in 4tH.   
      
   You know what? It's equivalent to "-ROT SWAP"..   
   I'll leave you to your thoughts..   
      
   Hans Bezemer   
      
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