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   Anton Ertl to Paul Rubin   
   Re: Best Euler #13 solution?   
   04 Jun 24 06:08:34   
   
   From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at   
      
   Paul Rubin  writes:   
   >anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:   
   >>> project started in 2001, which means computers 100x(?) slower than   
   >>>modern ones.   
   >>   
   >> Athlon MP 1800+ 1533MHz, 256KB L2, AMD760MP, Debian Etch        1.412   
   >> Xeon W-1370P (=Core i7-11700K), 5200MHz, Debian 11 (64-bit)     0.175   
   >   
   >Hmm, pretty good, stuff in 2001 was faster than I remembered.  But that   
   >was a state of the art machine.  I think I was mostly using a 600 mhz   
   >Pentium III at the time.  I might not have even gotten that though.   
   >Before that, I had a 233 MHz Pentium MMX.   
      
   The Pentium III 600MHz was released on August 2, 1999.  Given the fast   
   advances (at moderate costs) at the time, why would you buy a Pentium   
   III 600MHz after 2001?   
      
   I myself bought a Pentium 133 in 1995, a K6-2 300 in September 1998,   
   upgraded that to a K6-2 500 in March 2000, bought an Athlon   
   (Thunderbird) 800 in September 2000, and upgraded that to an Athon   
   1200 in September 2001.  Maybe a little excessive, but it shows the   
   fast advances at the time; a factor 4 in clock speed and more in   
   performance in 3 years.  These days I use a 2015-vintage 4GHz Skylake   
   as desktop.   
      
   Anyway, let's see what the LaTeX benchmark says about Pentium III and   
   Pentium MMX:   
      
   Pentium MMX 233, Red Hat 6.0, L2-Cach on (gupu neu)            12.3   
   Dell Optiplex GX1, Pentium III 550MHz                           4.76   
   Athlon MP 1800+ 1533MHz, 256KB L2, AMD760MP, Debian Etch        1.412   
   Xeon W-1370P (=Core i7-11700K), 5200MHz, Debian 11 (64-bit)     0.175   
      
   So not even a factor 100 between the Pentium MMX 223 and the Xeon   
   W-1370P, but maybe with a fast Zen 4 or Raptor Lake and a slim LaTeX   
   the factor 100 might be reached.  But the Pentium MMX 233 was   
   introduced in 1997-06-02 and was 8.7 times slower on this benchmark   
   than a 2001-vintage CPU, that's a higher factor than the factor 8.1   
   between the 2001-vintage Athlon MP 1800+ and the 2021-vintage Xeon   
   W-1370P.   
      
   >I had actually thought of the Euler project as going back further, like   
   >to the 386 era if not before.   
      
   Project Euler is a web site, and the WWW was only started in 1989 and   
   became publically available in 1993 (the Pentium was introduced in   
   1993).  And then it took some years until Web 2.0 sites like Wikipedia   
   (2001) or Project Euler (2001) were started.   
      
   - anton   
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