From: ruvim.pinka@gmail.com   
      
   On 2024-10-30 16:59, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > Ruvim   wrote:   
   >> When a word list is created with `vocabulary`, it is associated with a   
   >> name, and `order` displays this name in its output.   
   >>   
   >> When a word list is created by `wordlist`, it is not associated with a   
   >> name. Therefore, `order` typically displays a number for that word list,   
   >> which is less informative.   
   >>   
   >> A Forth system might try to find a constant whose value is identical to   
   >> the wid of such word list and display the name of the constant. Do you   
   >> know if this approach is used anywhere?   
   >>   
   >> Some Forth systems technically can associate a name with a word list   
   >> after the word list is created with `wordlist`. And some even provide an   
   >> API for doing so.   
   >>   
   >> Do you know of any Forth systems that technically *cannot* associate a   
   >> name with a word list created with `wordlist` (due to internal details)?   
   >   
   > VOCABULARY didn't make it in the standard because conflicts.   
      
   Because of what conflicts?   
      
      
   BTW, the word `vocabulary` was standardized in 2020.   
   See:    
      
      
   It is possible to obtain the wid from a vocabulary:   
      
      : vocabulary>wordlist ( xt.vocabulary -- wid )   
        also execute   
        get-order swap >r 1- set-order r>   
      ;   
      
      ' forth vocabulary>wordlist forth-wordlist = .   
      \ this should print "-1"   
      
      
      
      
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   Ruvim   
      
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