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   Hans Bezemer to dxf   
   Re: Managing custom words [Re: "Back & F   
   03 Dec 24 14:40:10   
   
   From: the.beez.speaks@gmail.com   
      
   On 25-11-2024 06:24, dxf wrote:   
   > On 23/11/2024 2:46 am, Buzz McCool wrote:   
   >> On 11/19/2024 9:48 AM, Buzz McCool wrote:   
   >>> ... Any other tips on word management would be appreciated.   
   >>   
   >> I found the "Forth Foundation Library": https://github.com/uho/ffl   
   >>   
   >> Is this still widely used? I ask since all the commits are over a decade   
   old.   
   >> ...   
   >   
   > AFAIK it was never widely used.  When the question as to why arose on c.l.f,   
   > everyone had an excuse as to why it didn't suit them.  The reluctance in   
   > Forth to use others' code goes all the way to Moore himself and extends to   
   > things such as the Standard.  Elizabeth comments on the phenomena here:   
   >   
   > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/t7DjpOZkR9M/m/GZbK41I_NA4J   
   >   
      
   Well, she's right! ROFL! I recognize myself in those things, absolutely.   
      
   Still, I guess there are at least a hundred "snippets" I converted to   
   4tH, sometimes working closely together with the original authors (like   
   Wil Baden (especially when 4tH was in its infancy and not very ANS   
   compatible) and Ed) to make 'em work.   
      
   And I still use these routines very frequently - either because of their   
   functionality or the abstractions they offer.   
      
    From time to time - when I find myself particularly clever, I port the   
   whole shebang to true ANS Forth, so people have another occasion to show   
   their negative tendencies online (which kind of takes the fun out of   
   it). But that's an experience we all share.   
      
   I remember somebody published a tiny number formatter online and was   
   burned to the ground for the most outrageous reasons - while the only   
   thing the thing did was to reliably add commas at a three digit intervals.   
      
   Tip: it helps if you fix them - even if your fixes are of no use to   
   anyone, rather than to simply barf over 'em like you're an old drunk on   
   a Saturday night who can't hold his liquor.   
      
   Hans Bezemer   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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